[Advaita-l] Raama and advaita - a mocker

[H S Chandramouli]

*What I have attributed to Sri Shrinivas Gadkari in my previous post   is
actually stated by sri ramakrishnan sivakumar.  Regret the error.*

*Regards*

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On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 5:14 PM, H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Links to previous discussions on the topic of sarvajnatva and icchA-adhInatva of mAyA to
>> Ishvara were provided by Sri Anand Ji. Some issues raised in those links do not appear to have been dealt with fully in those discussions.
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>> One of these is the following. Sri Shrinivas Gadkari observed
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>> << *About prarabdha of avatara, Poojaneeya Sadhu Gopala Swamikal of Poojapura*
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>> >*Thiruvananthapuram,Kerala,who was  Brahamavdwarya as Swami was well
>> received*
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>> >*by*
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>> >*saints like Sri Ramana  Maharshi, and Sri Vidyadhiraja Chattmbi
>> Swamikal*
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>> >*with Karpooraarathi when they met each other,in one of the lectures*
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>> >*(published as ARUL MOZHIKAL in Malayalam) says that *prarabdha of an
>> avthara*
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>> >*is derived from samashty** >> *
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>> *to which Sri *Srikrishna Ghadiyaram responded
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>> *<< *This a Christian doctrine, that Christ/Jesus suffered for the sins of others. A
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>> bad idea>>,
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>> Vichara Sagara (of Sadhu Nishchala Das in hindi, commentary on the same
>> also in hindi by Sadhu Pitambar Das and Sanskrit version of the same by
>> Swami Vasudeva Brahmananda Saraswati)  explains this as follows.
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>> Jagat is Created and sustained by the samkalpa of Iswara in order to
>> allow for the jivas to experience sukha and dukha in accordance with their
>> karma phala. As part of this samkalpa,due to the power of good actions
>>  like upAsana etc carried out by sAdhakas and bad actions carriedout by
>> some others,  Iswara takes on the forms of avataras like Rama, Krishna etc.
>> These forms are not the result of samashty  karma phala of jivas per se.
>> These forms become the cause of sukha for the good jivas while at the same
>> time they are the cause of dukha for the bad jivas. Because of this reason,
>> the forms of avatara purushas come to be regarded as due to samashti karma
>> phala of jivas.
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>> This is how the statement << *prarabdha of an avthara*
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>> >*is derived from samashty**>> should be understood and not in the way << *This a Christian doctrine, that Christ/Jesus suffered for the sins of others. A
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>> bad idea>>.
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>> This is my understanding.
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>> Regards
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