[Advaita-l] What is the difference between Maya and avidhya ?T

[Ravi Kiran]

On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:

> praNAms
> Hare Krishna
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> the bhAshya says :
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> सदेव सदिति अस्तितामात्रं वस्तु सूक्ष्मं निर्विशेषं सर्वगतमेकं निरञ्जनं
> निरवयवं विज्ञानम्,
> Is it not clearly paramArthika sat mentioned before creation ?
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> >  Yes, but somewhere in sUtra bhAshya (4th adhyAya I reckon) shankara
> clarifies in shruti whenever brahman taught through creation it is apara
> brahman (kArya brahman) and when the brahman taught not considering the
> creation, jneya brahma it is para brahman.  When the gold is being taken as
> ring, bangles etc. it is kArya drushti, when the gold is mere / kevala gold
> without considering its kArya i.e. ring, bangle etc. it is GOLD only NOT
> bangle or ring.
>

Yes, I saw the reference sent from Subbu Ji yesterday ( from Mandukya as
well)


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> How it is possible to admit avidyA in paramArthika sat before creation ?
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> >  very legitimate question indeed.  Those who propagate the avidyA beeja
> Shakti in parabrahman would say it is with the associating of this avidyA
> beeja Shakti (mUlAvidyA) brahman does the creation.  So according to them
> when you talk about the creation, you have to accept the avidyA and its
> locus should be brahman before creation.


If it is admitted in sabeeja sath or apara brahman (kArana brahman) as
Ashraya in Brahman, do you see any conflicts ?

The issue arises only if any trace of avidyA is admitted in paramarthika
sat ( or nirguna nirvisesha nirupAdhika brahman) ..is it not?


>   This declaration is because of no difference between mAya and avidyA in
> their dictionary :-) However, some others would say parabrahman svabhAva
> (not its attributes, itareya up. And bhAshya show this and shankara
> elsewhere clarifies that from the paramArtha drushti when there is one
> without second 'Ishwara's attributes like omniscience and omnipotence are
> in the spehere of avidyA)  itself is sarvajnatvaM and sarvashaktitvaM it is
> NOT something like avidyA beeja Shakti or mUlAvidyA, it is 'mAya' which is
> brahmAbhinna when it comes to creation.  ajOpi sannavyayAtmA bhUtAnAM
> IshvarOpi san, prakrutiM svAm adhishtAya, saMbhavAmyAtmamAyayA says geetA
> chArya and bhAshyakAra clarifies this Ishwara is avidyA vinirmukta forever
> in sUtra bhAshya.
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> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar
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