[Advaita-l] Ramana Maharshi - Advaitin or Neo Advaitin?

[Sujal Upadhyay]

Sri Chandramouli ji,

Thank you for giving another view than that of familiar sampradAya which is
traditional. If we take past life into account than many things that a
GYAnI undergoes in this life like sravaNa, manan, etc is already
accomplished in past life of some dhyana siddha yoga brashTa jIvAtmA-s.

Kind Regards




On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 2:37 PM, H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

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> Sri Sujal Ji observed  concerning Sri Ramana Maharshi
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> << What Bhaskar ji says is true. He didnt belong to any traditional
> sampradAya. >>,
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> In the “familiar” ( I am intentionally using the word instead of
> “traditional” the reasons for which would be clear later in this post)
> advaita sampradAya, the attainment of jnana takes place in the same body in
> which the sAdhanAs are undertaken. Hence terms like shrOtriya, guru-shishya
> parampara etc could be relevant and they could be linked to the jnAni.
> However this is only one aspect of the advaita sampradAya concerning
> fruition of knowledge vis-à-vis sAdhanas. There is another aspect of the
> advaita sampradAya which is broughtout by Sri BhagavatpAda in BSB 3-4-52.
> Relevant portion is reproduved below.
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> << एतदुक्तं भवति — यदा प्रक्रान्तस्य विद्यासाधनस्य कश्चित्प्रतिबन्धो न
> क्रियते उपस्थितविपाकेन कर्मान्तरेण, तदा इहैव विद्या उत्पद्यते ; यदा तु खलु
> तत्प्रतिबन्धः क्रियते तदा अमुत्रेति । >>
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> << etaduktaM bhavati — yadA prakrAntasya vidyAsAdhanasya
> kashchitpratibandho na kriyate upasthitavipAkena karmAntareNa, tadA ihaiva
> vidyA utpadyate ; yadA tu khalu tatpratibandhaH kriyate tadA amutreti | >>
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> Translation by Swami Gambhirananda  << This being the case, our answer is
> ; “The generation of knowledge takes place even in this life if there is no
> obstruction to the means adopted”. The idea amplied is this : Knowledge is
> possible even in this life, provided the means adopted for enlightenment
> are not obstructed in any way by some other result of past work that
> fructifies just then. Should it, however , be obstructed, the fruition
> comes in a subsequent birth. >>
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>  In such cases, quite clearly, terms like shrotriya, guru-shishya
> parampara etc cannot obviously be linked to the jnAni in the current body.
> They are not relevant either. Since Sri Bhagavatpada himself has admitted
> such possibility, surely such a  jnAni is not to be considered as being
> outside  the purview of “traditional” or “bonafide” advaita sampradAya..
> Sri Ramana maharshi comes under this category for those of us who consider
> him to be a jnani. He does come under the purview of  “traditional”
> advaita sampradAya as much as the others coming under the  “familiar”
> advaita sampradAya and in whose case terms like shrOtriya, guru-shishya
> parampara etc are relevant.
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> Regards
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