[Advaita-l] How can prANa be Brahman?

[H S Chandramouli]

Sri Ravi Kiran Ji,

Very sorry for misunderstanding your earlier post.

Reg  << Is this your stand as well ? >>,  I would say I am very comfortable
with this understandng. Infact a reading of jivanmukti viveka clarified a
number of bhashya points for me and I am very happy about it.

Regards

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Ravi Kiran <ravikiranm108 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sri Chandramouli Ji
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 2:01 PM, H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com
> > wrote:
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>> I must clarify I have not mentioned about any such “NS jnAna, one has
>> attained in NS”. Attainment of jnana mentioned by me also ..
>>
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> Yes, understood and it is clear from your previous reply, neither I am
> citing you on this and have made no such reference ... there were some
> comments earlier from another member on this thread ..so, wanted to clarify
> it..
>
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>> This is “experiencing Brahman (prajna)”. The sAdhaka who attains jnana
>> does indeed experience this bliss at that time. In fact attainment of jnana
>> is nirvikalpaka samAdhi (NS) according to advaita sidhanta ( I do
>> anticipate strong opposition to this statement. I only request that if so
>> the issue may be takenup as a separate thread and not mixedup with this
>> thread).  The further practices prescribed for jivanmukti are NOT for
>> gaining any “secondary jnana’(using your terminology) but ONLY for ensuring
>> constancy and stability of this NS. I recap from my earlier post.
>>
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> Thank you ...this is my understanding as well..
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>> Quote  << but according to the text Jivanmuktiviveka by Swami
>> Vidyaranya, in the case of sAdhakas who have not fully cultivated
>> वासनाक्षय (vAsanAkShaya) and मनोनाश (manonAsha), due to absence of
>> rigorous practice and being influenced from time to time by fructifying
>> prArabdhakarma that leads to enjoyment, eradication of sorrow and begetting
>> of  happiness is not consistent and stable. Depending upon the intensity of
>> prior practice of वासनाक्षय (vAsanAkShaya) and मनोनाश (manonAsha), they
>> frequently lapse into the normal mode of vyavaharika experience.Thus they
>> partially lose the benefit of jnana attained by them.>>.  Unquote.
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>> This stand is considered by many advaitins as admitting to avidyabeeja
>> after attaining knowledge
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> Is this your stand as well ?
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> which according to them is not acceptable.
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> I had pointed this out earlier also and mentioned that Swami Vidyaranya
>> has justified his stand by providing pramana from
>> Sruti,Smruti,Yogavasishtha,Sutaamhita etc.
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> Thanks,
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