[Advaita-l] Paul Hacker's erroneous view

D Gayatri dgayatrinov10 at gmail.com
Sat Sep 3 12:30:02 CDT 2016


//But they themselves never bear the names of Shiva!! //

That is just an assumption. Nothing prevents them from taking names of
their choice.


On Saturday, 3 September 2016, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 10:54 PM, D Gayatri <dgayatrinov10 at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dgayatrinov10 at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> //Why
>> would a 'Vaishnava' Shankara, as per Paul Hacker, bear the name of the
>> creator Shiva?//
>>
>> First of all Paul Hacker only implies that Shankara has affinity to
>> vaishnavism. Secondly, there is no rule that vaishnavas cannot bear the
>> name of Shiva. Gaudiyas consider Shiva himself as the best vaishnava!
>>
>
> But they themselves never bear the names of Shiva!!
>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 3 September 2016, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org');>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Also, Paul Hacker is thoroughly let down by Sureshwara and Padmapada.
>>> Both
>>> have very clearly established that Shankara was indeed Shiva.
>>> Sureshwara,
>>> in another vartika, says Shankara bore the name of 'Vedhā', Creator. Why
>>> would a 'Vaishnava' Shankara, as per Paul Hacker, bear the name of the
>>> creator Shiva?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 10:23 PM, V Subrahmanian <
>>> v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Praveen R. Bhat <
>>> bhatpraveen at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Namaste Subbuji,
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for bringing in an important point which I was planning to make
>>> >> yesterday, but didn't because I had not read through all that was
>>> being
>>> >> discussed. This is amiss in people who lack the background of such
>>> kAvya
>>> >> composition or tarka basis. Even in vyAkaraNa sUtras, what is prApta
>>> alone
>>> >> can be a candidate for consideration, be it negation or not.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > Very true. Only because it is prāpta Padmapada brings in Shiva. None
>>> can
>>> > explain this without bringing in the Shiva-Shankara identity.  Aprāpta
>>> > pratiṣhedhah is a dosha.
>>> >
>>> > vs
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> No one would think that Shankaracharya is Shiva due to his name being
>>> >> similar, bringing in the necessity of consideration or negation.
>>> >>
>>> >> Kind rgds,
>>> >> --Praveen R. Bhat
>>> >> /* Through what should one know That owing to which all this is known!
>>> >> [Br.Up. 4.5.15] */
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 10:07 PM, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
>>> >> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 7:03 PM, D Gayatri <dgayatrinov10 at gmail.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > The very comparison by Padmapada arises only because of the fact
>>> >>> that he
>>> >>> > > believed that Shankara was Shiva avatara. Otherwise there is no
>>> >>> reason to
>>> >>> > > make that comparison for the mere name being Shankara.
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >
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