[Advaita-l] Why did Krishna said that he was unable to repeat Gita?

Shashwata Shastri shashwata.unimas at gmail.com
Sat Oct 29 13:25:02 CDT 2016


Pranam Sunil Ji,

But we can simply throw some ideas. Right?

Best Regards,

Shashwata Chowdhury

On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 7:59 PM, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 9:30 PM, D.V.N.Sarma డి.వి.ఎన్.శర్మ via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Are we sure that Anu Gita is not an interpolation.
> >
>
> Shankaracharya has cited verses from the Anugītā in the introduction to the
> Bh.G.Bhāṣya.
>
> ‘स हि धर्मः सुपर्याप्तो ब्रह्मणः पदवेदने’ (अश्व. १६-१२) इति *अनुगीतासु* ।
> तत्रैव चोक्तम् — ‘नैव धर्मी न चाधर्मी न चैव हि शुभाशुभी । ’ (अश्व. १९-७)
> ‘यः
> स्यादेकासने लीनस्तूष्णीं किञ्चिदचिन्तयन्’ (अश्व. १९-१) ॥ इति ‘ज्ञानं
> संन्यासलक्षणम्’ (अश्व. ४३-२६) इति च ।
>
> The concerned chapter in the MB is titled:
>
> अर्जुनेन कृष्णंप्रति पूर्वोपदिष्टगीतार्थस्य विस्मरणोक्त्या
> पुनस्तदुपदेशप्रार्थना।। 1 ।। कृष्णेनार्जुनंप्रति स्वस्मै
> ब्राह्मणोक्तसिद्धकाश्यपसंवादानुवादः।। 2 ।।
>
> So, we cannot suspect its interpolation at least till his times. Of course
> the possibility of interpolation is forever there for the whole of the
> Mahabharata since no one knows for sure what was its size at its inception.
> There are several versions, sizes, of the BG itself, dating to
> pre-Shānkaran times.  For example there has been a 'Kāshmīra pāṭha' with
> very old commentaries.
>
>
> regards
> vs
>
> > regards,
> > Sarma.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 8:20 AM, Sunil Bhattacharjya via Advaita-l
> > <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > > Dear Shashwata Shastriji,
> > >
> > > I never said that the Lord expressed his inability to be yoga-yukta. He
> > took the avatara for a divine purpose and not to be yoga-yukta at anytime
> > at the call of Arjuna, whom the Lord rebuked for forgetting all that he
> had
> > been taught. Further, the Lord very well knew that Vedavyasa would
> > propagate to the world what all the Lord taught to Arjuna.
> > >
> > > I am neither speak for the Lord nor can claim that I understand all his
> > maya. I just expressed what I understood as to why the Lord did not
> repeat
> > the Gita discourse. Lord has his own way of working. Vedavyasa told that
> > the Lord could have averted the curse of Gandhari if he wanted to  and
> > protected the Yadus from getting destroyed, but he did not do that.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Sunil KB
> > > --------------------------------------------
> > > On Fri, 10/28/16, Shashwata Shastri <shashwata.unimas at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Why did Krishna said that he was unable to
> > repeat Gita?
> > >  To: "Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>, "A
> > discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
> vedanta.org
> > >
> > >  Date: Friday, October 28, 2016, 6:53 PM
> > >
> > >  Pranam
> > >  Sunil ji,
> > >
> > >  Svayam Bhagwan
> > >  is unable to achieve yoga-yukta state again? That
> > >  doesn't sound right. Who has subjugated yoga-maya, who
> > >  is by born jivanmukta he has issues while acquiring youga
> > >  yukta state? Isn't there a mystery behind it?
> > >
> > >  Best Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > >  Shashwata Chowdhury
> > >
> > >  On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at
> > >  9:45 PM, Sunil Bhattacharjya via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
> > vedanta.org>
> > >  wrote:
> > >  Namaste
> > >  Praveenji,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  The Lord also said that he delivered the discourse in
> > >  Yoga-yukta state.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Kind regards,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  ------------------------------ --------------
> > >
> > >  On Thu, 10/27/16, Praveen R.
> > >  Bhat <bhatpraveen at gmail.com>
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Why did Krishna said that he was
> > >  unable to repeat Gita?
> > >
> > >   To: "Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
> > >  >, "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta"
> > >  <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
> > >  vedanta.org>
> > >
> > >   Date: Thursday, October 27, 2016, 2:10 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   Namaste Sunilji,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at
> > >
> > >   11:06 AM, Sunil Bhattacharjya via
> > >  Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
> > >  vedanta.org>
> > >
> > >   wrote:
> > >
> > >   Lord Krishna did not
> > >
> > >   forget Gita. How cam he? Please do not go by the
> > >  translation
> > >
> > >   and better read what the Lord said to Arjuna as given in
> > >  the
> > >
> > >   Sanskrit verses.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   The relevant
> > >
> > >   part of the verse reads so in Sanskrit: न च
> > >
> > >   साऽद्य पुनर्भूयः
> > >
> > >   स्मृतिर्मे
> > >
> > >   सम्भविष्यति । The explanation
> > >  may
> > >
> > >   not have been given, but the translation is not
> > >  incorrect,
> > >
> > >   since it literally reads as: "And now, that
> > >
> > >   recollection of mine [regarding the narration] is not
> > >
> > >   possible".
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   Kind rgds,
> > >
> > >   --Praveen R. Bhat
> > >
> > >   /* Through
> > >
> > >   what should one know That owing to which all this is
> > >  known!
> > >
> > >   [Br.Up. 4.5.15] */
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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