[Advaita-l] Why was the illusory universe generated at the first place?
Nagesh Tavaragerimath
nageeta at gmail.com
Wed Mar 30 22:52:41 CDT 2016
Respected All,
Pranams.
All the learned on the team have gone to the great depths of philosophical
details in providing an answer. Much respected with such a wealth of
information on this thread.
The question is akin to asking, why does a baby cry / play / laugh / hug /
kiss on a daily basis. Let us just imagine a baby born into this world and
never crying / pestering or any of such activities and just keeps growing
by having it's own food. Is this possible (unless in rare instances of
physiological deficiencies) at all, in case of a normal baby? Not that one
can think of, right? Reason is simple......the energy (Shankti) is making
the baby do all those things in it's daily activities. This energy is the
root cause of all the things that one can perceive, on a day-to-day basis.
The energy cannot be idle......ever! The very first verse of Soundarya
Lahari goes as:
Shivah Shaktyaa Yukto Yadi Bhavati Shaktah Prabhavitum
Nache Devam Devo Na Khalu Kushalah "Spanditumapee"......
It is this Shakti, that is playing the 'dance of Maya'.
Maya is probably the basis, with the help of which, Shankti is able to see
and realize the Supreme Awareness. Without Maya it may be not possible for
Shakti to realize the Awareness, as there is no difference between Shakti
and Supreme Awareness.
With sincere apologies, for daring to answer this impossible question, in
layman terms!
With sincere pranams,
Nagesh Tavarageri
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 11:25 PM, Aurobind Padiyath via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> Pranams,
>
> You asked two issues
>
> 1. If it is I who generated this illusion it means I have that so called
> imperfection called avidya. Why I the consciousness contain such
> imperfection.
>
> Illusion is never a creation and no one can create it. Is darkness a
> creation? But once you experience the darkness you may create a ghost etc
> out of imagination. But you cannot have the vision of the
> ghost-looking-object as ghost in broad daylight unless one is mad or having
> differently-abled mind.
> Can you also ask when did the creation of ghost take place? Etc.
>
> 2. What kind of nature is that which bonds Brahman itself?!
>
> So do we call darkness as a creation? Or do we say that is natural to have
> darkness when light is not there?
> It is in this sense that it is called natural. Will you say that darkness
> is binding light? So too Brahman. The absence of light of knowledge creates
> apparent vision of multiplicity. Up on the dwan of wisdom the Truth is
> revealed.
>
> Now instead of asking more questions about the non-real ignorance, ask
> about the nature of knowledge. If you search for ignorance you will remain
> in it, but inquiry into knowledge will bestow you with it. That will solve
> any questions about ignorance.
>
> Aurobind
> On 25 Mar 2016 02:56, "Shashwata Shastri via Advaita-l" <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > What kind of nature is that which bonds Brahman itself?!
> >
> > Shashwata Chowdhury
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 8:26 PM, S Jayanarayanan via Advaita-l <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >
> > > The answer is provided in the Gaudapadiya Karika 1.9:
> > > http://www.celextel.org/upanishads/atharva_veda/mandukya.html
> "Some
> > > others hold that creation is for the enjoyment (of God), yet others say
> > > that it is for His sport. But it is the very nature of the resplendent
> > > Being, (for) what desire can he have whose desire is all fulfilled?"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Shashwata Shastri via Advaita-l <
> > > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> > > To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 3:18 PM
> > > Subject: [Advaita-l] Why was the illusory universe generated at the
> > first
> > > place?
> > >
> > > What is this Maya? Where does it come from? Why was Avidya there at the
> > > first place? Brahman is the one and absolute. My question is, why this
> > > spark of imperfection in the perfect? Without Brahman there can be no
> > > existence of Maya itself. But what is the relation between Maya and
> > > Brahman? It is not like the Brahman, it is not even same as Brahman, it
> > > can not exist without Brahman, it is not something which can be
> > identified
> > > as the opposite of Brahman either. But we need to admit that it did
> > > generate from Brahman. If it is from Brahman then why it was there on
> the
> > > first place (Again same question)? Why depended existence of ignorance
> in
> > > absolute and pure Brahman?
> > >
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