[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Why only jagat is mithya and jeeva is brahman !!??

[Ravi Kiran]

Namaste Bhaskarji

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:

> praNAms Sri Ravikiran prabhuji
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> Hare Krishna
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> For a jnAni, when Brahman is satya always (jnAna nishTa), is there a
> further need to mention jagat satya along with Brahma satya ?
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> By stating so, does it further qualify or enhances it, by any means?
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> Ø   For that matter for the ajnAni also jagat is satya only and from this
> satyatva buddhi in jagat he does the vyavahAra thinking that this jagat is
> his bhOga bhUmi and he is bhOktru, this jagat is karma bhUmi thinking that
> he is kartru / karmi etc.  So for his jagat is an independent satya and he
> is an individual enjoyer / sufferer etc.  Whereas from the pAramArthika
> drushti of the jnAni, this jagat is not an independent reality and jnAni is
> not an independent enjoyer etc.
>


> Because in him there is no jnAtru, jnana, jneya triputi vyavahAra.
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Yes, brahmavid brahmaiva bhavati ..

> He sees Atman and only Atman in sarva vikAra, for him jagat is not MITHYA
> it is satya in its kAraNa svarUpa.
>

paramArtha jnAnam and jnAni's vyavahAra are not the same and has to be seen
as such..

Sri Shankara in sUtra bhAshya says ..

पश्वादिभिश्चाविशेषात्। यथा हि पश्वादयः शब्दादिभिः श्रोत्रादीनां संबन्धे सति

शब्दादिविज्ञाने प्रतिकूले जाते ततो निवर्तन्ते अनुकूले च प्रवर्तन्ते
यथा दण्डोद्यतकरं

पुरुषमभिमुखमुपलभ्य मां हन्तुमयमिच्छति इति पलायितुमारभन्ते
हरिततृणपूर्णपाणिमुपलभ्य

तं प्रति अभिमुखीभवन्ति एवं पुरुषा अपि व्युत्पन्नचित्ताः क्रूरदृष्टीनाक्रोशतः

खड्गोद्यतकरान्बलवत उपलभ्य ततो निवर्तन्ते तद्विपरीतान्प्रति अभिमुखीभवन्ति।

अतः समानः पश्वादिभिः पुरुषाणां प्रमाणप्रमेयव्यवहारः।

jnAni’s vyavaHara involving pramAna-pramEya, is said to be like
pashu's activity.

This is deterministic of jnAni, when it comes to *vyavaHara*.


Rest is left to one's discretion ..



> From this sarvAtma bhAva, whatever he does is satyameva.  sadAtmanA
> satyatvAbhyupagamAt…sarvavyavahArANAM sarvavikArANAM cha
> satyatvaM.clarifies shankara in sUtra bhAshya.  He is not declaring here
> jagat is mithyA and his vyavahAra with this jagat is mithyA, it is
> satyameva from the highest point of view that is brahmaikatva drushti.
>
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
>
> bhaskar
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