[Advaita-l] Why was the illusory universe generated at the first place?

[Aurobind Padiyath]

Is it not happening every day? Even without effort? You don't have to dwell
on the subject. It's a natural process called swabhava.
This world as it is perceived now will vanish but there will be and there
is only That by whatever terms you describe from this state. Can beauty of
a rainbow explained to the blind becomes his knowledge? Only when he gains
vision he will know about the rainbow, even how he himself looks and how
the world appears. No word nor his mind can reach that knowledge before
that vision.
Ignorance is said to be beginning-less, but can be ended up on knowing.
Same way once known it can never be unknown. Since time itself is a product
of this ignorance, it's not possible to explain or give a reason for the
cause of it. It will be trying to climb your own shoulders. That's why the
answer to your question of getting caught up in its own ignorance cannot be
explained or understood.
For a moment go into deep sleep where time is absent. Do you have any issue
of ignorance? But you as the pure existence knowledge and bliss was only
there merged into its totality of One Being. When you establish firmly you
are That even in all the three states where in one you dream and the other
you experience this world and goes back to that One Being, you are the the
One and Only One. Does the ocean undergo any change from it's wateryness
when it changes to waves, bubble, cloud, iceberg, rain, pond, lake, Brook,
stream, river and back into ocean?
That Being, in essence which is everything, is also is like that.
Words cannot take you there as it's beyond. The whole of ShAstras and Guru
can only point us to That. The journey has to be ours.
HariOm!
Aurobind

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 14:44 Shashwata Shastri, <shashwata.unimas at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The world will only vanish when I will only dwell on the subject. If I can
> direct all of my senses towards that Inner being there is no world.
> Where did this ignorance of mine come from? Did  I create it? It means
> Brahman itself is caught up on it's own ignorance?
>
> Shashwata Chowdhury
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Aurobind Padiyath <
> aurobind.padiyath at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Your own ignorance about your true nature is what makes your feel
>> limited. Similar to dream where you feel you as various entities inside
>> your dream, all your own creation, but identifies with the dreamer,
>> similarly in waking state. You are neither.
>> Only when you are given the knowledge of your real nature, these
>> misunderstanding will get eradicated and once you gain that then you won't
>> feel miserable. Just as you are no more worried about your dreams. But you
>> continue to see it. Same way knowing the real swaroopa of you will remove
>> your identification with the concept of the individual self. But this world
>> will not vanish, only it will be seen in the new light of knowledge. Seeing
>> the water of mirage will entice you only till the truth is unknown.
>>  This is the Moksha what Advaita guarantee.
>> (I'm purposely not using jargon as I find many get stuck up on them and
>> miss the purports of the teachings)
>>
>> Aurobind
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:06 Shashwata Shastri, <shashwata.unimas at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Why do I posses such limitation? Why should I make that mistake? I the
>>> subject, the consciousness, why have I merged my inner conscious being with
>>> the objects? Why do I mistakenly take myself as an object? From where do
>>> this limitation and ignorance rise from? If I am that conscious existence
>>> why am I trapped in my own objective experiences?
>>>
>>> Shashwata Chowdhury
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 8:18 AM, Aurobind Padiyath <
>>> aurobind.padiyath at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is no absence of light in reality. Only the limitation of your
>>>> eyes to see is called the absence. Mistaking the light of Sun under
>>>> conditions is in reality the wateryness. Same way when you see things as
>>>> names and forms not as Sat Chit Ananda that includes you too, that is
>>>> called Avidya or Maya. Not perceived in it's reality creates the names and
>>>> forms.
>>>> Can you experience any thing if it is not existing (Sat), Awareness
>>>> (Chit) and niratishaya anubhuti (Ananda)? Everything is only experienced as
>>>> knowledge and only if it is existing. That experiencing if it is confused
>>>> with the names and forms it is called Jagat otherwise in it's reality it is
>>>> only Brahman.
>>>> Aurobind
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:36 Shashwata Shastri, <
>>>> shashwata.unimas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My question still remains- why the absence of light? And why the
>>>>> mirage in first place? As desert and sun is the source of the mirage same
>>>>> way Brahman is the source of the illusion. I think I should ask this - Why
>>>>> should I experience the absence of light in the first place?!
>>>>>
>>>>> Shashwata Chowdhury
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 7:42 AM, Aurobind Padiyath <
>>>>> aurobind.padiyath at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Your statement
>>>>>> "It (darkness) can be experienced hence it is sat and at the same
>>>>>> time these particular experiences can be nullified (in the presence of
>>>>>> light), therefore, it is asat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brahman is cit (consciousness) Maya is Avidya or (Avastu).
>>>>>> Object(appearance) is very different from the subject but there is no
>>>>>> object without the subject (This assumption is wrong as in a mirage). But
>>>>>> where did this object (the water in a mirage or darkness in the absence of
>>>>>> light) came from? "
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aurobind
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:03 Shashwata Shastri, <
>>>>>> shashwata.unimas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where did this Vastu came from? If it is Vastu what is it doing
>>>>>>> inside of Brahman? Surely it is not an independent entity?! Questions
>>>>>>> related to Maya always puzzles me. I know without Brahman it is non
>>>>>>> existent. Maya is mithya and mithya is by default sat and asat. It can be
>>>>>>> experienced hence it is sat and at the same time these particular
>>>>>>> experiences can be nullified, therefore, it is asat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brahman is cit (consciousness) Maya is Avidya or vastu. Object is
>>>>>>> very different from the subject but there is no object without the subject.
>>>>>>> But where did this object came from?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shashwata Chowdhury
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 1:53 AM, Aurobind Padiyath <
>>>>>>> aurobind.padiyath at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pranams
>>>>>>>> The first error that needs correction is that Maya is a vastu. The
>>>>>>>> rest of the questions will be nonexistent if you understand this.
>>>>>>>> It is compared to darkness to light as an example.
>>>>>>>> Now look at your questions in this scenario. You will get all
>>>>>>>> answers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Aurobind
>>>>>>>> On 23 Mar 2016 03:48, "Shashwata Shastri via Advaita-l" <
>>>>>>>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is this Maya? Where does it come from? Why was Avidya there
>>>>>>>>> at the
>>>>>>>>> first place? Brahman is the one and absolute. My question is, why
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> spark of imperfection in the perfect? Without Brahman there can be
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>> existence of Maya itself. But what is the relation between Maya and
>>>>>>>>> Brahman? It is not like the Brahman, it is not even same as
>>>>>>>>> Brahman, it
>>>>>>>>> can not exist without Brahman, it is not something which can be
>>>>>>>>> identified
>>>>>>>>> as the opposite of Brahman either. But we need to admit that it did
>>>>>>>>> generate from Brahman. If it is from Brahman then why it was there
>>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>> first place (Again same question)? Why depended existence of
>>>>>>>>> ignorance in
>>>>>>>>> absolute and pure Brahman?
>>>>>>>>>
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