[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Why only jagat is mithya and jeeva is brahman !!??

[Ravi Kiran]

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:

> I find the  gold-ornaments example is analogy of the Brahman being the
> adhiSTAna of jagat..  though the ornaments ( jagat) is experienced, it is
> not paramArthikam, while Brahman alone is ...
>
> praNAms
> Hare Krishna
>
> I agree.  But point here is can there any existence be attributed to
> ornaments without the presence of gold in it??  When you know the true
> svarUpa of gold, the socalled nAma rUpa is nothing but gold only i.e.
> satyameva.  Shankara talks about 'bheda buddhi nivrutti' NOT bhedAkAra
> nivrutti.  Hence it has been clarified that the 'jagat' will not be
> vanquished by attaining the brahmavidyA.


Ok, what is the relevance of such a nAma rUpa jagat in paramArtha satyam
(svata-siddha, sva-prakAsa vastu), Brahman?

praNAms


> But the assumptions (like it is asarvaM, paricchinnaM, independent from
> its svarUpa etc.)  about jagat conceived by the one who endowed with avidyA
> are gone!!??  For that matter brahma vidyA svarUpa jnana does not create
> anything new nor destroy a thing in front.  It (jnana) can reveal the
> 'truth' behind jagat which is nothing but brahman.
>
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!
> Bhaskar
>
> PS :  Kindly pardon me prabhuji-s for continuing this thread from my
> side.  Since I am the originator of 'doubt' on jagan mithyatvaM, I have to
> clarify certain points from my view point.
>