[Advaita-l] Nyayasudha Objections 1

[V Subrahmanian]

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Srinath Vedagarbha via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The advaita position is that bheda vAkyas in the shruti are not to be
> > taken as pramANa for bhedatvam.
> >
> > 1) For any means of knowledge to be a pramANa, it has to reveal things
> > that are not previously known. That there is bhedA is well known through
> > everyday experience. One does not need the vedA to tell us that fire is
> > hot, it is knowable via pratyaksha. Similarly we experience bhedA
> everyday,
> > and therefore we don't need the vedA to tell us that bhedA is satyam.
> >
>
> Well, they are not talking about bhEda between vastu-s known from
> pratyaksha neither. They are talking about atIndriya padArtha/tatvas and
> difference between them. For example, when difference between Brahman
> and Jiva is said to exist, neither Brahman nor jIva is known from
> pratyaksha. Otherwise we would not any atheism at all!
>

Dvaita admits bheda is known by pratyaksha:

https://sites.google.com/site/harshalarajesh/prakarana-granthas

//The satyavada of bheda is not only cognised by pratyaksa and anumana but
it is affirmed by Sruti more than once. Satyam bhida sathyam bhida satyam
bhida is the emphatic statement of Sruti. This bheda is five-fold.

1. Between Jiva and Iswara
2. Between Jada and Iswara
3. Between Jiva and Jiva
4. Between Jada and Jiva
5. Between Jada and Jada

The difference between Jiva and Isvara continues even after liberation.
This is made clear in the sruti passages.//

//To know Jivesvarabheda, one has to know both Jiva and Isvara. Though the
jiva is known by Pratyaksa, Isvara is not known either by Pratyaksa or by
Anumana. //

//Bheda that is established by Pratyaksa and Anumana, when also stated in
bhedasrutis establishes its validity more firmly.//

//The role of Pratyaksa Pramana in comprehending the reality is examined
and its priority over other Pramanas is pointed out. //

So, the above says that pratyaksha is pramana for knowing reality!!


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