[Advaita-l] About beef eating in Upanishada

[Nithin Sridhar]

Thank you Sujal ji. You are right, Shastras have multiple layers of
meaning, each with its own context and applicability.

Regards

On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Sujal Upadhyay via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Nice Article Nitin,
>
> I recall that in bhAshya on viShNu sahasranAma, our AchArya Adi Sankara
> bhagavadpAda while commenting on #187 govinda says that 'gau' means 'vAka'
> i.e. vANI (speech). It is an oblation of speech. The whole world was
> created by sound of 'a' 'अ' and 'I'  'ई'
>
> When veda-s, purANA-s and itihAsa are interpreted as inner oblation,
> oblation of inner breath, breath of prANa (energy) flowing from
> sahasrahAra, iDA and pingalA, the entire context is changed.
>
> The word 'gau' has many meanings. Cow is just one of them.
>
> Maybe Shri Venkata Sriram could throw more light. I am not qualified enough
> to speak on this topic. Just trying to think from yogic POV.
>
> Mantra-s are formulated in such a way so as to resonate with certain energy
> centers (chakra-s) and nāḍī-s, thereby purifying and activating them for
> spiritual progress.
>
>
> An example:
>
> Demigods are the definite energy centers within our subtle bodies. Chanting
> a mantra will activate these psychic nerve centers i.e. chakra-s, cleanse
> psychic nerves called as nāḍī-s raise the kunḍalinī to get enlightenment.
>
> Whatever is inside is reflected in the outside worldly more or less
> similarly. Many riddles in the veda-s which do not make sense like Rāhu and
> Ketu engulfing Chandra and Sūrya appear as unscientific from outward
> observation, as Rāhu and kētu are planets and covering Moon and Sun is a
> natural process of eclipse. However, Rāhu and Kētu represents prāṇa-s. Moon
> (chandra) and Sun (sūrya) are nāḍī-s known as īḍā and pingalā which are
> located on left and right side of Suṣumṇā respectively. They start from
> just above Mulādhāra chakra and end on tip of nostrils. Īḍā ends on left
> side and pingalā ends on right side. Eclipse is the yogic process of
> in-breath from īḍā towards the inverted energy triangle called yonī, where
> kunḍalinī hides. In-breath covers yonī and kunḍalinī  with prāṇa.
> Out-breath rises from yonī without activating kunḍalinī. Breathing
> simultaneously from both nāḍī-s (nostrils) has it’s advantages and merits,
> but it blocks the rising of kuṇḍalinī through suṣumṇā thereby creating an
> eclipse. The process repeats with pingalā nāḍī. In other words, the inner
> breath, covers or eclipses kunḍalinī. When kunḍalinī is struck and
> awakened, it initially rises from iḍā and pingalā and later from susumṇā.
> When kunḍalinī rises from suṣumṇā, it pulls all the types of prāṇa-s from
> all nāḍī-s including idā and pingalā. prāṇa-s merge with kunḍalinī in
> suṣumṇā and kunḍalinī takes them along with her, rising upto sahasrāra
> chakra and gently rising out of sahasrāra, merging in infinity. When this
> divine phenomenon happens, one gets enlightenment. But this outward rising
> of kuṇḍalinī is not easy. nāḍī-s, chakra-s, prāṇa-s and mind needs to be
> highly purified. They get purified by chanting of mantra-s.
>
> Īndra is often represented as intellect. In veda-s and purāṇā-s, there is a
> legend of Īndra winning over Vritrā. Vritrā, the demon, represents
> ignorance or dullness which blocks the mind. Īndra, the awakened intellect,
> slays Vritrā and frees all the blocked rivers. Rivers represent nāḍī-s. We
> also find in rig veda that it is Devī Sarasvatī who slays Vritrā. Sarasvatī
> represents knowledge. In this case, both Īndra and Sarasvatī represent
> ‘awakened mind’ or ‘awakened intellect’. Hence it does not matter whether
> who killed Vrittrā. It is ignorance getting uprooted by knowledge.
>
> The story of slaying of Vritrā is a yogic process of an awakened intellect
> destroying ignorance and cleansing nāḍī-s thereby progressing spiritually.
> Playing with kuṇḍalinī and chakra-s must be done under the care and
> guidance of a competent guru else it will do more harm and help. It is not
> possible for laymen to experience subtle bodies and find exact location of
> chakra-s and nāḍī-s by ourselves. Vedic and purāṇic stories are encrypted
> riddles in order to protect them from being misused or wrongly used. For an
> individual or a Yogī, stories are encrypted way of explaining inner yogic
> process and inner universe and it an encrypted process of evolution of
> consciousness.
> ---
>
>
> OM
>
> Sujal Upadhyay
>
> "To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
> nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi
>
> He who has faith has all
> He who lacks faith, lacks all
> It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
> FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Shashwata Shastri via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > If it is possible can any one explain me about the Mamsashtaka Sraddha
> > which is prescribed in the Govila Grihya Sutra?
> >
> > Shashwata Chowdhury
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 3:22 AM, Nithin Sridhar via Advaita-l <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Well said Sanju ji.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Sanju Nath <sanjivendra at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > प्रणाम Nitin-जी,
> > > >
> > > > Beautifully written and backed with analysis.
> > > >
> > > > Beyond such analysis, all we need to do is look inside ourselves and
> > the
> > > > answer of अहिंसा will come, in proportion to the साधन that is
> > > uninfluenced
> > > > by politics, culture baggage, and तर्क।
> > > >
> > > > धन्यवाद,
> > > > Sanju
> > > >
> > > > > On Mar 2, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Nithin Sridhar via Advaita-l <
> > > > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Please read my 4-part piece on Beef and Hinduism-
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://nithinsridhar.blogspot.in/2015/11/beef-controversy-in-india-4-parts.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
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> > > > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 6:33 AM, D.V.N.Sarma డి.వి.ఎన్.శర్మ <
> > > > > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I am a vegetarian. In my post I have not advocated beef eating.
> The
> > > > sloka
> > > > >> "अश्वमेधं गवालंभं..." prohibits killing cows in yajnas. It does
> not
> > > > >> apply to eating
> > > > >> beef. Even if there is a prohibition of beef it only applies to
> > > > >> Hindus. For others
> > > > >> it is their choice. I do not think that there is any perverted
> > > > >> intellectualism in this.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The quicker the Hindus study their past, face the facts and accept
> > > them
> > > > >> objectively, the better it will be for Hindus. We Hindus have to
> > > > >> realise that there is
> > > > >> a lot that has been swept under the carpet. The greatest hypocricy
> > we
> > > > >> practice
> > > > >> is daily using and enjoying the innovations of science but
> > denigrating
> > > > >> them compared
> > > > >> to the mythical innovations in puranas.
> > > > >> regards,
> > > > >> Sarma.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l
> > > > >> <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > > > >>> Namaste
> > > > >>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 9:25 PM, D.V.N.Sarma డి.వి.ఎన్.శర్మ
> > > > >>> <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > > > >>>> It is an invented explanation by some people to say Hindus never
> > ate
> > > > >> beef.
> > > > >>>> A motivated explanation. As I have said in the earlier post
> there
> > > are
> > > > >> many
> > > > >>>> places where beef eating by brahmins is mentioned. If you are
> > > > >> interested google
> > > > >>>> for the same.
> > > > >>> But there is also Yuga Dharma. In Ramayana there are saying Rama
> > was
> > > > >>> offered bulls. It was Treta Yuga. In Kali Yuga some things are
> not
> > > > >>> allowed like if one brother dies the surviving brother can take
> his
> > > > >>> wife. Eating beef is not allowed in Kali Yuga. If you say we can
> > eat
> > > > >>> beef the same argument should be made for accepting dead
> brother's
> > > > >>> wife.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> In Mahabharata they also say in very ancient times there was no
> > > > >>> marriage. Any man was allowed to take away any woman. Now if you
> > use
> > > > >>> the same beef eating argument what will you get? Will you abolish
> > > > >>> marriage system? Imagine what will happen then.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> The moral lesson is some things were done in the ancient times
> but
> > > > >>> they should not be done now.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> regards,
> > > > >>>> Sarma.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Shashwata Shastri
> > > > >>>> <shashwata.unimas at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>> I was not going against the commentator Shankara. I found this
> > > > >> explanation
> > > > >>>>> on Gitapress's Brihadaranyaka's commentary. They also followed
> > > > >> Shankara's
> > > > >>>>> commentary. But used a different kind of explanation for the
> word
> > > > >> mamsa,
> > > > >>>>> rishava and ukshana.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Shashwata Chowdhury
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 6:29 AM, D.V.N.Sarma డి.వి.ఎన్.శర్మ
> > > > >>>>> <dvnsarma at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> The commentator Sankara Bhagavatpada has explained the
> > > Brihadarnyaka
> > > > >>>>>> passage as the meat of an ox are male calf.
> > > > >>>>>> He used the word "पुंगव". He did not mention any herbs. Since
> > > > Sankara
> > > > >>>>>> is earlier in time and supposed to have known the tradition
> > better
> > > > >>>>>> than us the moderners, I think we have to accept his
> > explanation.
> > > > >>>>>> Besides this there are many places where beef eating has been
> > > > >>>>>> mentioned.
> > > > >>>>>> It is sheer waste of time to pursue these things.
> > > > >>>>>> regards,
> > > > >>>>>> Sarma.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Shashwata Shastri via
> Advaita-l
> > > > >>>>>> <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>> In eight Maha Oushadhi I found two herbs which are named as
> > > Rishava
> > > > >> and
> > > > >>>>>>> Ukshana. Did the Brihadaranyaka mentioned about these
> > particular
> > > > >> herbs
> > > > >>>>>>> in
> > > > >>>>>>> that passage?
> > > > >>>>>>> Shashwata Chowdhury
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