[Advaita-l] About Satyakama

[Venkatesh Murthy (वेङ्कटेशः सीतारामार्यपुत्रः)]

Namaste

Adi Sankara is very correct. Jabala was a Brahmin lady. But she
followed ancient custom of living in many households with Rishis
according to her own wishes. She was not a low caste maidservant.
Idiots acting like scholars say she was a low caste woman. She did not
remember which Rishi was Satyakama's father. If she remembered the
father knowing the Gotra was possible. Because Rishi and Gotra are
linked.

Another thing is women are always by nature pure minded. They do not
have impure thoughts like men. Men in ancient times were pure minded.
They were pure minded like male animals and male birds. The male
animals approach the females only in season but not outside. The
female in season will choose the male. Similarly the ancient women
were choosing the man. In the next season the female may choose a
different male. Similarly ancient women were changing partners
according to the natural instinct. This was the approved custom. All
the Rishis followed it.

Gradually men became more and more impure. Therefore they put
restrictions on women to protect them from impure minded men. You can
see the most extreme position in Islam. They put so much restriction
to prevent a woman to show even her face. The restrictions should be
on impure men but they are putting all restrictions on women only. It
is a big farce.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 4:45 PM, D.V.N.Sarma డి.వి.ఎన్.శర్మ
<advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> "बह्वहं चरन्ती परिचारिणी यौवने त्वामलभे ।
> साहमेतन्न वेद यद्गोत्रस्त्वमसि ।"
>
> Should we not attach some significance to the word "यौवने". Why should she
> mention about the service to many people here? Does not a cause and effect
> relationship suggest itself between begetting Satyakama and serving many?
> If she was the wife of a brahmin through whom she bore Satyakama and forgot
> his gotra, the simplest and straightforward thing is to say  "I do not
> remember your father's gotra". She does not say that she does not
> "remember" the gotra. She says she does not "know" the gotra. All these
> things should be taken into account when interpreting the text.
>
> regards,
> Sarma.
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Shashwata Shastri via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
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>> Pranam Aurobind Ji,
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>> Sorry to say- but I can't accept something which clearly differs against
>> the opinions of respected Jagatguru.
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>> *//Bhashyakara was not impeccable and did have his own limitations.With all
>> reverence to Acharaya for his elucidation of the shaastras, I willnot
>> hesitate to point out where he has twisted the originals to meet
>> somecompulsion of his times which we are unaware of today. To evaluate
>> hiscommentary is not an ordinary task. But where he had his prejudice
>> tohighlight Brahamins by birth ( जात्या ब्राह्मणः) and due to this if he
>> hadover stepped in twisting the shaastras,  it need to be accepted.There is
>> even one incident where his own disciple Sri Sureswaracharyahimself
>> corrects his master of his over zealous approach in protecting therights of
>> above class.// *
>> Bogus words and hateful statements against the lord of knowledge. I don't
>> know how much devotion you carry in your heart for the lord but for me,
>> these kind of statements against Jagatguru is like melted iron in my ear.
>> You should hold your tongue if you have the slightest respect for
>> Jagatguru.
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>> गुरु ब्रह्मा गुरु बिष्णु गुरुर्देब महेश्बर।
>> गुरुरेब परब्रह्म तस्मै श्री गुरुबे नमः।। -गुरुगीता
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>> *र्यथा देबे परमात्मनि तथा गुरो पराभक्ति* -श्बेताश्बतर
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>> Best Regards,
>> Shashwata
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>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 3:46 AM, Aurobind Padiyath via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
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>> > Are you reading any English translation? You may go through the following
>> > links also.
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>> > http://www.rkmissionkhetri.org/news/?p=131
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>> > https://youtu.be/67nE0-vjLUY
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>> http://vaniquotes.org/wiki/Satyakama_Jabala_was_born_of_a_maidservant,_but_wanted_to_become_a_brahmana,_and_so_he_approached_Gautama_Muni_for_initiation
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>> > Aurobind
>> > On 26 Jun 2016 23:10, "Jaldhar H. Vyas via Advaita-l" <
>> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
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>> > > On Sun, 26 Jun 2016, Shashwata Shastri wrote:
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>> > > Thank you for your answers. I think that is why she was named as
>> Jabala.
>> > >> Because of her inconstant and agog nature.
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>> > > And Satyakama "he who desires truth" is also an allegorical name.  As
>> > > Shankaracharya notes, the point of telling this story is to eulogize
>> > > shraddha and tapa (which includes always speaking the truth) as angas
>> of
>> > > brahmopasana.
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>> > > --
>> > > Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
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