[Advaita-l] Crossing death is not immortality

[Venkatraghavan S]

Namaste,

Gyana can certainly be obtained. While one does not obtain Brahman or
become Brahman, as one is Brahman in reality, that knowledge is obscured by
ignorance. The obtaining of knowledge in essence is the removal of that
ignorance.

Jnana can only arise through shravaNa manana nidhidhyAsana (SMN). No amount
of nitya naimittika karma anushthAna, in the absence of SMN, will help in
obtaining knowledge. While karmayoga can help in chitta shuddhi, it is not
sufficient for jnAna.

<<One can try to remain equal to joy and sorrow as much as humanly possible
and one can "intellectually" comprehend the fallacy of maya, samsara, etc
but that that is not real Gyana.>>

Not true. Understanding is necessary and sufficient for moksha. The real
understanding is that apart from understanding, nothing else is required.

Regards,
Venkatraghavan
On 26 Jun 2016 7:12 p.m., "Jaldhar H. Vyas via Advaita-l" <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016, ravi chandrasekhara wrote:
>
>
>> Then how does one "obtain Gyana " ?
>> Performance of svadharma, nitykarmas, doing good deeds, avoiding bad
>> deeds ,
>> and follwoing yamas/niyamas surely help but what is needed for self
>> realization to end cycle of birth and death ?
>>
>> One can try to remain equal to joy and sorrow as much as humanly possible
>> and one can "intellectually" comprehend the fallacy of maya, samsara, etc
>> but that that is not real Gyana.
>>
>>
> Perhaps "obtain" is the wrong word.  Jnana is the knowledge that you are
> nothing else but the eternal imperishable Brahman.  No being, human or
> divine can give that knowledge nor can they take it away.  But by
> performance of nitya and naimittika karmas without regard to the phala we
> can remove the veil of maya which prevents that jnana from shining forth.
>
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