[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Works of Sri Vidyashankara
Sunil Bhattacharjya
sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 29 01:13:11 CST 2016
Namste Venkatraghavanjee.
When one cannot be sure one should consider the most probable ones. One has to check whether the Bhagavadgita bhashya comes among the most probable ones. Let us dispassionately analyze the issue. : Sri Vidyashankara became Mathadhipati in 1118 CE and Sri Ramanujacharya passed away in 1137 CE. That means Sri Vidyashankara reigned as the mathdhipati for 1137-1118 = 19 years before Sri Ramanujacharya passed away. It is not possible that such a great Advaitic scholar like Sri Vidyashankara would let Sri Ramanujacharya's Bhagavadgitabhashya go uncontested and that is why he did write the Bhagavadgita bhashya from the advaitic angle. Moreover Prof. Karmarkar pointed out that linguistically Adi Shankara's style as seen in his Brahmasutrbhashya and other bhashyas is not seen in the Bhagavadgita bhashya. Further the Pandya kings were ruling when Sri Vidyashankar went to Kanchipurama and the great Sanskrit scholar king Sundara Pandya was a contemporary of Sri Vidyashankara. This fact is also to be taken into consideration that Natalia Isayeva had pointed out the Sundara Pandya connection in the Bhagavadgitabhshya. All these make it strongly possible that the Bhagavadgitabhashya was written by Sri Vidyashankara and not by Adi Shankara.
Please do not take it personally as I am trying my best to arrive at the truth rather than shirking it off. If you have contrary views you can also advance your arguments and there is no harm in having friendly discussions in the scholarly forums (fora).
Regards,
Sunil KB
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On Wed, 12/28/16, Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] [advaitin] Works of Sri Vidyashankara
To: "Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>
Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>, "yahoogroups" <advaitin at yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 28, 2016, 10:04 PM
Namaste
Sunilji,
You are free to disagree
with any name in the list. I don't hold this to be
definitive - I was only replying to your question if I had a
view on what the 16 bhAshyas referred to by Chitsukhacharya
could be. If you have a better methodology, so be
it.
In any case, not
sure how relevant this is useful in determining whether the
GIta bhAshya was written by Shankara or not.
Please provide a definitive basis
that rules it's authorship out. Until then, I will
recuse myself from the discussion.
Regards,Venkatraghavan
On 28 Dec 2016 11:39 p.m.,
"Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>
wrote:
Namaste
Venkatraghavanji,
Not only you forgot to include the Shvetasvatara Upanishad
as well as the Yogasutrabhashyavivaraan, you forgot to
include Adi Shankara's very first bhashya, which was on
the Vishnusahasranama and you also forgot his very last
bhashya, which was on the Lalita Trishati. May I request the
other scholars including Vidyasankar Sundaresanji, as to
which, according to them, are the bhashyas, which
constitute the list of the 16 Bhashyas of Adi Shankara.
Regards,
Sunil KB
On Wed, 12/28/16, Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
[advaitin] <advaitin at yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] [advaitin] Works of Sri
Vidyashankara
To: "Venkatraghavan S" <agnimile at gmail.com>
Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta"
<advaita-l at lists.advaita-
vedanta.org>, "V Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>,
"yahoogroups" <advaitin at yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 28, 2016, 12:18 PM
Namaste Venkatraghavanji.
How can you exclude Shankara-bhashyas on the
Shvetashvatara
upnaishad and the Yogabhashyavivarana, just because the
Vaninilas press did not include these two in the list of
16
Shankara-bhashyas. I cannot imagine that Shankara did
not
look at the Yogasutra and the seshvara-Sankhya.as needed
for
higher studies on Indian philosophy.
Secondly, there is a doubt on the Vakyabhashya being a
work
of Adi Shankara. There is a paper on that, but I do not
recall the detials. Moreover there was some discussion on
it
in the "advaita group" as follows:
http://www.advaita-vedanta.
org/archives/advaita-l/2009- June/021911.html
As regards the book entitled "Shankara And Indian
Philosophy" of Natalia Isayeva, it is published by
the
State University of New York Press. Albany. I read from
a
library.
Regards,
sunil KB
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On Wed, 12/28/16, Venkatraghavan S
<agnimile at gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] [advaitin] Works of Sri
Vidyashankara
To: "Sunil Bhattacharjya"
<sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
>
Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta"
<advaita-l at lists.advaita-
vedanta.org>, "V
Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 28, 2016, 11:30 AM
Namaste
Sunilji,I'm replying to both emails
simultaneously:
1) The vANi vilAs Press, which brought out a
collection of AchArya's works under the aegis of
HH
Sri
SacchidAnanda ShivAbhinava Nrsimha BhArati svAminah,
lists
the following as bhAshyas:1)
Brahmasutra-bhashya2) Isa3) Kena
pada4) Kena vAkya5) KaTha6)
PraSna
7) MuNDaka8) MANDUkya9) Aitareya
10) Taittiriya11) ChhAndogya
12) BrihadAraNyaka13) NrisimhapUrvatApani
14) Bhagavad-GitA-bhAshya
15) VishNusahasranAma16) SanatsujAtiya
From the above, the number according to vAni
vilAs ties in with the number referred to by
chitsukhAchArya. If there is a bhAshya that is left
out
from
the list above which can take the place of the gIta
bhAshya,
please let us know. 2) Can't comment
on language differences between gIta bhAshya and the
rest,
would have to see specific examples to opine. If you
can
provide instances from Prof. Karmakar's paper to
the
list, we all can take a look. I'm suspicious of
philological research, but will keep an open
mind.
3) Not having read Nataliya Isayeva's
paper, I do not understand in what context the comment
about
adhyAropa apavAda was made. This is a common prakriya
across
all vedAnta shAstra in general, and not something that
is
unique to the gIta bhAshya. Also not sure about the
sundarapANDya reference. If there is a peculiarity
about
the
way it is used in the BGB which is indicative of
sundarapANDya's
work, please share that with the group. Why would
that rule out Shankara's authorship in any
case?
4) Please can you point which verse number from
the GK is supposedly from the expanded gItA, and
missing
from the gItA bhAshya?
5) On yAdavaprakAsha, you were questioning the
authorship of the ShAnkara Gita bhAshya based on a
subsequent bhAshya by yAdavaprakAsha referred to
by VedAnta deshika. If you do not believe in the first
instance that yAdavaprakAsha wrote a bhAshya, that
question
of Shankara's authorship on that basis also falls
away.
Regards,Venkatraghavan
On 28 Dec 2016 4:54
p.m., "Sunil Bhattacharjya"
<sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
> wrote:
Dear Venkatji,
According Chitsukhacharya, there were 16 bhashyas
written
by
Adi Shankara. Has anybody tried to identify these 16
bhashyas of Adi Shankara? Can the Bhagavad Gitabhashya
fit
in the 16 Bhashyas?
Secondly there is the language style of the
Bhagavadgitabhashya, from which some scholars opined
that
Bhagavadgitabhashya does not appear to a composition
of
Adi
Shankara.
Thirdly, why would Adi Shankara write bhashya on the
Bhagavadgita of 700 verses when the original
Bhagavadgita
of
745 verses was available to him, as we can see the
inclusion
of thy ajati ada verse from the Bhagavadgita in the
Mandukyakarika by Gaudapadacharya.
Now coming to Yadavaprakasha, I still have one doubt,
about
his writing the Bhagavadgitabhshya, until some
confirmation
is seen. Just claiming that Yadavaprakasha wrote a
bhashya
on the Bhagavad gita is not worth accepting.
Ramanujacharya is believed to have seen the
Bodhayana-vritti
on the Bhagavadgita, which is claimed to be the
guide-book
for Ramanujacharya, but that claim also appears dicey,
as
nowhere any trace of that Bodhayanavriti has been
found.
Swami Vivekananda also tried his best by searching for
it
all over India.
Regards,
skb
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On
Wed, 12/28/16, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l
<advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedan
ta.org> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] [advaitin] Works of Sri
Vidyashankara
To: "V Subrahmanian"
<v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita
Vedanta"
<advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedan
ta.org>
Date: Wednesday, December 28, 2016, 6:25 AM
Thanks Subbuji.
So yAdavaprakAsha wrote a commentary to the
Brahma SUtra also, one that was
referred to
by Sri RAmanuja.
It's
clear from this that using yAdavaprakAsha to claim
that
the
Shankara
who wrote the Brahma SUtra bhAshya
is different from the Shankara who wrote
the
Bhagavad Gita bhAshya is not with merit - because
yAdavaprakAsha wrote
a commentary to the BS
too!
What applies for the
Gita, applies for the BS too, so shall we say
Shankara
did not write the bhAshya to BS also?
Regards,
Venkatraghavan
On 28
Dec 2016 1:15 p.m., "V Subrahmanian"
<v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 4:43 PM,
Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Namaste Sri Sunil,
>>
>
>
>> Are there extant
works of yAdavaprakAsha to determine if he was an
>> advaitin, or if this was simply a
hagiographical attribution by
>>
vishiShTAdvaita scholars?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
Venkatraghavan
>>
>
> Dear Sri Venkat
ji,
>
> Recently there
was a discussion in the BVP forum where eminent
Ramanuja
> follower-scholars have said that the
Yadavaprakaśa bhāṣya for the
>
Brahmasutras, though not available in its original
form,
is
cited in
> Ramanuja's bhāsya. There
is a proposed project to reconstruct Y's
> philosophy from the Śrībhāṣya. The
discussion also gives room to think of
> 'Śankara's matam' as
distinct from 'Yādavaprakāśa's
philosophy'.
So, what
> hue of Advaita was that of the
latter is not clearly known to us. But the
> proposed reconstruction, if it happens,
would bring these aspects to the
>
limelight.
>
> warm
regards
> subbu
>
>>
>>
>>
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