[Advaita-l] Shankara authenticates Shiva as the son of Brahma

[V Subrahmanian]

I think I read about this very recently in a Ganguly translation of the
MB.  I am almost sure. I am open to correction, however, on this.

On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 3:44 PM, D Gayatri <dgayatrinov10 at gmail.com> wrote:

> //In fact there is a report in the MB that Shiva is the one who, in the
> form of Hanuman that committed himself to the loving service of Rama. //
>
> Please give me the moola shlokas for this. As far as I know, Hanuman is
> treated as the son of vAyu (not Shiva), in both Ramayana and Mahabharata.
> From my side, I will shortly give you references for this in the Ramayana
> and Mahabharata. Having said that, Tulsidas calls Hanuman as Shankara
> suvana, so what you said might also have basis. But Tulsidas was from 16th
> century, so he is pretty recent.
>
>
> On Sunday, 14 August 2016, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 12:28 PM, D Gayatri <dgayatrinov10 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> //In fact in the VR itself, when Rama fought elsewhere, the comparison
>>> is: Rama fought like Rudra.//
>>>
>>> Let us look at the Valmiki Ramayana itself to see what Valmiki thinks
>>> of Shiva and Vishnu -
>>>
>>
>> Valmiki alone compares Rama's valour as being like that of Rudra. The
>> 'battle' that the VR reports is only staged, as it is subject to the Drona
>> parvan incident.
>>
>> In fact there is a report in the MB that Shiva is the one who, in the
>> form of Hanuman that committed himself to the loving service of Rama.
>>
>> vs
>>
>>>
>>> जृम्भितम् तत् धनुः दृष्ट्वा शैवम् विष्णु पराक्रमैः || १-७५-१९
>>> अधिकम् मेनिरे विष्णुम् देवाः स ऋषि गणाः तदा |
>>>
>>> ["On seeing the bow of Shiva rendered inert by the mettlesomeness of
>>> Vishnu, from then on the gods along with the assemblages of sages
>>> deemed Vishnu to be the paramount... [1-75-19b, 20a]
>>>
>>> Secondly, these are the words of Hanuman in the Ramayana, Sundara Kanda -
>>>
>>> ब्रह्म स्वयमुभूश्च तुराननो वा |
>>> रुद्रस्त्रिणेत्रस्त्रिपुरान्तको वा |
>>> इन्द्रो महेन्द्रः सुरनायको वा |
>>> त्रातुम् न शक्ता युधि रामवध्यम् || ५-५१-४५
>>>
>>> ["Either Brahma the self-existing god with four faces or Rudra with
>>> three eyes and the destroyer of Tripura (the city built of gold,
>>> silver and iron in the sky, air and earth, by Maya for the demons and
>>> burnt by Shiva), or Mahendra the god of atmosphere and sky as also the
>>> lord of celestials would not be able to protect the one to be killed
>>> by Rama in battle."]
>>>
>>>