[Advaita-l] Fwd: Re: What is the difference between Maya and avidhya ?

[V Subrahmanian]

On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 7:03 AM, Ramachandra Achar via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

>
> Yes, subbu sir ,
>            I accept because of agnana whatever we see is false,and that
> object doesn't exist in all three "kaalas",
> For example snake seen on rope,person seen on dream......
>
> I too accept Maya ,which is due to agnana is false and doesn't exist in
> three  folds of time.
>
> But we have accept the existence of agnana in past and present.
> For example in dream whatever we see maybe false and doesn't exist.....
> But we have to accept the existence of dream in past and present...
> Similarly, agnana of seeing snake in rope  maybe false....
> But that agnana,which makes me to see snake in rope is not false...it is
> true and 100% exists...otherwise we can't account for this world....
> So,there exist two things agnana and jgnana (brahman)......atleast at past
> and present ,maybe at features only jgnana continues to exit....
>

The BG 2.16 says about 'Existence': na abhāvo vidyate sataḥ [Existence will
never go out of existence.] That which exists can never go out of
existence. If X is admitted to no longer exist, then its former existence
is in question. If māyā/ajñāna/avidyā were admitted to exist at any time in
the past and present but not in future, then its earlier existence is in
question. Why? For the reason that it does not satisfy the above definition
of existence.  Since it is known to cease to exist upon the dawn of
knowledge, it is deemed to be non-existent in all three periods of time. It
only appeared to exist but did not really exist. Had it really existed,
then, like Brahman, it should be existing for ever.

vs

Then how do you prove there exists only jgnana (Brahman),in all three kalas

> and agnana doesn't exist in all three folds of time?
>
> Ramachandra
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