[Advaita-l] Fwd: Knowledge of Brahman

[Harsha Bhat]

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From: Harsha Bhat <harsha9519 at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Knowledge of Brahman
To: "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <jaldhar at braincells.com>, A discussion group for
Advaita Vedanta <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>


Jaldar sir,
                           One interesting point here,

                      According to advaitha in moksha or in  turya
state,there will not be any swarupa jgnana,or knowledge of self  to athman.

So,my question is ,if a person has swarupa jgnana ,then he may get affected
by swarupa-agjnana or (maya).

But one who don't have swarupa jgnana ,(like stone)...will never get
swarupa agnana...

Or in other words maya or avaidhya can never affect nirguna...and make him
feel that he is finite...

So,how you will prove the creation of this world here ...according to
advaitha?


regards,
Harsha Bhat

On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
wrote:

> On Sat, 7 Nov 2015, Harsha Bhat via Advaita-l wrote:
>
>  We get the moksha through the knowledge of brahman according to vedas,but
>>
>> 1)Infinite cannot be known by finite.
>>
>
> The finite does not actually exist.  It only appears to do so because of
> maya.
>
>
> 2)Nirguna can never be known ,because suguna can be known through suguna's
>> guna,but nirguna can never be known,because he is attribute less.
>>
>
> As a consequence of 1, when the delusionary gunas are negated then what is
> left is the nirguna brahman.
>
> 3)Nirguna cannot have knowledge.As knowledge is also a guna.
>>
>>
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2015, Harsha Bhat via Advaita-l wrote:
>
> Sorry small change to my third point said above,
>>
>> 3)Nirguna cannot have knowledge,as HAVING knowledge is also a guna...
>>
>
>
> No only the conventional (vyavaharic) knowledge which is based on the
> premise of duality is a guna.  From the paramarthic standpoint you do not
> need to "know" Brahman because you are and always have been Brahman.  Only
> maya deluded you into forgetting that.
>
> --
> Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
>