[Advaita-l] Unreality of the world and samsaara..

[Venkatraghavan S]

Sri Chandramouli

>> But according to Advaita , this is not something to be just understood (
the way we study and understand any other subject ), but something to be
realized intuitively ( aparoksha ).

Just wanted to clarify here - aparoksha gyAna, stated several times by
Swami ParamarthAnanda is simply knowledge about the true nature of myself.
There is no "mystical" element or "intuition".

There is a chance that as used in that statement, it could be wrongly
interpreted that understanding or knowledge is insufficient, which I
understand to eminently not to be.

Regards,
Venkatraghavan


On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:24 PM, H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Dear Sri Santosh Rao,
>
>
>  Reg your first query
>
>
>  << If the world / universe is ultimately unreal, is the proper
> understanding as per advaita to infer that samsaara is not really
> happening, but only appearing to do so? >> ,
>
>
>  I do not think this is the complete understanding of Advaita. No doubt
> this is part of the ultimate conclusion ( Tatparya ) of Advaita Sidhanta ,
> the other part being the identity of Brahman and Jiva . But according to
> Advaita , this is not something to be just understood ( the way we study
> and understand any other subject ), but something to be realized
> intuitively ( aparoksha ). Advaita prescribes a specific sadhana marga to
> achieve this. As part of this marga, the sadhaka must first get eligibility
> ( adhikaritva ) to undertake the later part of the sadhana which is
> shravana, manana and nididhyasana. During the first part ( gaining
> adhikaritva ) , the ulti mate conclusion ( that the samsara is unreal )
> could no doubt to be kept in the background , but all actions have to be
> undertaken as per the rules laid down in the scriptures which implies that
> the sadhaka should assume the creation to be real at least temporarily. He
> should thus become a sadhanachatushtaya sampanna which gives him the
> eligibility to undertake the later portion of the sadhana. During this
> period the sadhaka considers the creation to be real ( which comes
> naturally to him ) . Thus the second part of your first query
>
>
>  << If this is correct, how exactly is this apparently "real" order of
> karma,
> cause, and effect to be understood? How can we logically differentiate
> between good and bad actions that will lead to good and bad future births
> if good and bad don't exist to begin with within a system that doesn't
> exist to begin with? >>
>
>
>  is not valid till such eligibility is obtained .
>
>
>  Regards.
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Santosh Rao via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Pranams, 2 questions...
> >
> > 1) If the world / universe is ultimately unreal, is the proper
> > understanding as per advaita to infer that samsaara is not really
> > happening, but only appearing to do so?
> >
> > If this is correct, how exactly is this apparently "real" order of karma,
> > cause, and effect to be understood? How can we logically differentiate
> > between good and bad actions that will lead to good and bad future births
> > if good and bad don't exist to begin with within a system that doesn't
> > exist to begin with?
> >
> > 2) Is Maya eternal like Brahman? What is it's exact nature? A link to a
> > previous discussion regarding this topic would be appreciated, I don't
> see
> > a way to search the archives.
> >
> > Thx,
> >
> > Santosh
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