[Advaita-l] Advaita-l Digest, Vol 127, Issue 23

[Venkatesh Murthy]

Here is the Katu Satya the Harsh Reality everybody should know. In olden
days there was financial support and encouragement for Vedic Learning
because the Royal Kings were supporting a large number of Brahmins by
giving them property, cattle and income. My wife's cousin's great
grandfather was going to Mysore King's court only for one or two days in a
year and composing some Sanskrit poem to honour the King. For that he was
getting yearly income and a large house. Many Vedic Pundits were being
supported financially. The students had no fear of poverty if they followed
Vaidika education. Financial support was guaranteed.

Now things are very different. There is no financial support from Kings.
Except for big cities the boy following Vaidika profession will earn very
small income. Who will play King's role? It should be the religious Maths
with good financial condition. Some Mathadhipatis are respected like Kings
and are wearing crowns like Kings. Then they should also support a large
number of Brahmins like olden day kings. They should support Vedic
education and revive dying Vedic Shakhas.

Another option is rich individuals. But my observation is the rich
individuals have other priorities, Reviving dying Shakhas is not first
priority. They will donate to building temples, Poojas and Homas but not to
Vedic Pundits to teach some students.

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sri Ajit,
> My point was exactly that - what can *we* do to help. I wasn't suggesting
> palming the problem off to someone else.
>
> I didn't have the opportunity to do adhyayana as a child, so I'm currently
> doing the adhyayana of taittiriya shakha under the tutelage of my guru and
> with the blessings of gayatri mata, intend to have my son join once his
> upanayanam is completed. However, that in itself doesn't solve the problem.
>
> I understand that there is a sastraic sanction against adhyayana of
> another shakha before completing the adhyayana of sva-shakha. To the extent
> we are talking of an endangered shakha, you are not going to find students
> of that shakha that easily. Therefore, it will have to be someone else who
> has completed sva-shakha adhyayana - this person would have already devoted
> between 10-15 years of their life for that.
>
> In my case, I have a laukika job, so I am doing it part time, so its
> certainly going to take longer for me. To spend another 10-15 years to
> learn another shakha after I have completed this seems a long way off. To
> expect someone else to do it full time for 30 years before they can start
> earning seems a very unreasonable ask.
>
> Is there a sastraic exception to this rule, in the case of endangered
> shakhas?
>
> As Sri Venkatesh says, asking someone to send their son to a remote
> village purely for the sake of reviving a shakha seems unfair - in my view
> and personal experience, its better to start off with something which is a
> half-way house than have everything exactly perfect. Otherwise people would
> have no incentive / interest to even begin. Once people start getting into
> it, their involvement would automatically increase to a level which is
> desirable.
>
> It seems to me that tracking the holders of these shakhas and persuading
> them to teach students at other veda pathashalas / maths (and sponsoring
> them to do so), and at the same time, working with veda pathashalas and
> maths to find qualified students willing to learn (and sponsoring them to
> do so) may be a way forward.
>
> Regards,
>
> Venkat
> On 25 Feb 2015 03:47, "Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l" <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> Namaste
>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Ajit Krishnan <ajit.krishnan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > namaste,
>> >
>> > > Is there anything that can be done by us today
>> > > If Kanchi Math can do it for Atharvana Veda why not other Maths
>> >
>> >
>> > The solution is simple and has been proposed before. Unfortunately most
>> of
>> > the people who want others to solve the problem for them are unwilling
>> to
>> > send their own children to learn and revive these recensions.
>> >
>>
>>
>> Will a father dedicate one of his sons to Vedic studies? Possible. Will a
>> father send one of his sons to a remote village to learn a rare Vedic
>> Shakha and also financially support his son's Boarding and Lodging and
>> financially support the Vedic Pundit's teaching? Not possible. This work
>> must be done by Maths. They must accept responsibility as Custodians of
>> Vedas.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > sasneham,
>> >
>> >     ajit
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l <
>> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Namaste
>> >> Yes the Kanchi Math had sent some students to learn a rare Shakha of
>> >> Atharvana Veda that is Saunakeeya.
>> >>
>> >> But it was a one time attempt. All the Sankara Maths have to take up
>> this
>> >> Urgent Matter and act. They should send more students to learn the
>> >> vanishing Shakhas. Then only we can have assurance of preservation of
>> >> Vedas
>> >> for some more time.
>> >>
>> >> If Kanchi Math can do it for Atharvana Veda why not other Maths for
>> Sama
>> >> and others.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <
>> >> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Thanks for the link to Dr. Tripathi's lecture. It is very sad hear of
>> >> the
>> >> > dying of several rescensions - it is such  a loss for all of
>> humanity!
>> >> >
>> >> > I have heard of an anecdote where Sri Chandrasekhara Sarasvati
>> Swamigal
>> >> of
>> >> > Kanchi Kamakoti matham has sent some students to a pundit in Gujarat
>> to
>> >> > preserve a shakha that was supposed to have been lost.
>> >> >
>> >> > Is there anything that can be done by us today to preserve endangered
>> >> > shAkhAs?
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> > Venkat
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 6:00 PM, <
>> >> > advaita-l-request at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> > > From: Nithin Sridhar <sridhar.nithin at gmail.com>
>> >> > > To: Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>, A
>> discussion
>> >> > > group for Advaita Vedanta <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
>> >> > > Cc:
>> >> > > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 07:47:04 -0800
>> >> > > Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Atharvavediya Narayana suktam
>> >> > > This is an interesting blog-post I have found-
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> http://all-about-sanskrit.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/the-state-of-vedic-rescensions.html
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I hope learned members can comment on it.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Regards,
>> >> > > Nithin
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
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>> >> Regards
>> >>
>> >> -Venkatesh
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Regards

-Venkatesh