[Advaita-l] Advaita-1)Body is the disease

[Swamisarvabhutananda]

OM
Brahman is sarvajna: and not ignorant.
Unless one has the knowledge of Snake AND Rope  one cannot have mistaken identity.

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> On 14-Jan-2014, at 5:14 pm, Srirudra <srirudra at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear
> In the rope snake analogy there is either snake or rope .But the afraid individual only sees it as a snake first and gets panicky and guards himself avoiding stepping on it.Later he comes to a correct understanding.But here Brahman is said to be WITH ignorance.It  is not that Jiva sees Brahman as if with Avidhya.How this is to be accepted?R.Krishnamoorthy.
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>> On 14-Jan-2014, at 1:14 pm, H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> H S Chandramouli
>> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> < It is said that Brahman out of ignorance created body .Does it mean that
>> Brahman is also subject to avidhya? I think this may not be a correct >.
>> 
>> If " out of " is considered as refering to upadana karana ( material cause
>> ) it presents no problems as Avidya or Maya is considered to be so. Reg the
>> second sentence, It is to be remembered that Brahman and Avidya ( ignorance
>> ) refer to different levels of Reality. Thereby Brahman is not tainted by
>> ignorance though it itself appears in itself as ignorance, just like the
>> characteristics of the rope are not affected by the characteristics of the
>> snake appearing therein. Brahman is < Asangah > . That is how even if " out
>> of " in the first sentence is not considered as refering to the upadana
>> karana, the sentence is valid if  understood as < brahman as though out of
>> ignorance etc > .
>> 
>> The same applies to all other statements quoted from shruti/bhashya is this
>> thread reg brahman/ignorance/delusion etc. The understanding  must include
>> the " as though " aspect. Then there is no problem in appreciating them.
>> The statements < brahman has ignorance > and < brahman has sarvajnatva >
>> are both valid if viewed from this same perspective. Brahman is the ONLY
>> vastu. All else are appearences in brahman and do not taint brahman.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Srirudra <srirudra at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dears
>>> It is said that Brahman out of ignorance created body .Does it mean that
>>> Brahman is also subject to avidhya? I think this may not be a correct
>>> understanding.Kasmin Bhagavo vignyaya sarvam  idham vigyanatham bhavathi
>>> says Mundaka Upanishad.That is Brahman is knowledge.For a jivathma it may
>>> be acceptable.Just to explain certain difficult to understand propositions
>>> we should not give our own interpretations and complicate the issues dealt
>>> with by the Upanishads.It equally applies to Bhashyas also.R.Krishnamoorthy.
>>> 
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