[Advaita-l] Advaita-1)Body is the disease

[Srirudra]

Dear
In the rope snake analogy there is either snake or rope .But the afraid individual only sees it as a snake first and gets panicky and guards himself avoiding stepping on it.Later he comes to a correct understanding.But here Brahman is said to be WITH ignorance.It  is not that Jiva sees Brahman as if with Avidhya.How this is to be accepted?R.Krishnamoorthy.

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> On 14-Jan-2014, at 1:14 pm, H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> H S Chandramouli
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> < It is said that Brahman out of ignorance created body .Does it mean that
> Brahman is also subject to avidhya? I think this may not be a correct >.
> 
> If " out of " is considered as refering to upadana karana ( material cause
> ) it presents no problems as Avidya or Maya is considered to be so. Reg the
> second sentence, It is to be remembered that Brahman and Avidya ( ignorance
> ) refer to different levels of Reality. Thereby Brahman is not tainted by
> ignorance though it itself appears in itself as ignorance, just like the
> characteristics of the rope are not affected by the characteristics of the
> snake appearing therein. Brahman is < Asangah > . That is how even if " out
> of " in the first sentence is not considered as refering to the upadana
> karana, the sentence is valid if  understood as < brahman as though out of
> ignorance etc > .
> 
> The same applies to all other statements quoted from shruti/bhashya is this
> thread reg brahman/ignorance/delusion etc. The understanding  must include
> the " as though " aspect. Then there is no problem in appreciating them.
> The statements < brahman has ignorance > and < brahman has sarvajnatva >
> are both valid if viewed from this same perspective. Brahman is the ONLY
> vastu. All else are appearences in brahman and do not taint brahman.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Srirudra <srirudra at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Dears
>> It is said that Brahman out of ignorance created body .Does it mean that
>> Brahman is also subject to avidhya? I think this may not be a correct
>> understanding.Kasmin Bhagavo vignyaya sarvam  idham vigyanatham bhavathi
>> says Mundaka Upanishad.That is Brahman is knowledge.For a jivathma it may
>> be acceptable.Just to explain certain difficult to understand propositions
>> we should not give our own interpretations and complicate the issues dealt
>> with by the Upanishads.It equally applies to Bhashyas also.R.Krishnamoorthy.
>> 
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