[Advaita-l] Tapas

[Sujal Upadhyay]

Dear H.S.C ji

Fulfilment of any process or reaching destination is all that is important.

It is said in hindi

TyAga karanese GYAna nahI miltA, GYAna prAptahonese tyAga phalita hotA hai

English:

By renouncing Jnana is not achieved, by achieving Jnana, the purpose of
renunciation is fulfilled.

OM

Sujal Upadhyay

"To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi

He who has faith has all
He who lacks faith, lacks all
It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna


On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 12:36 PM, H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com
> wrote:

> H S CHANDRAMOULI
>
> Dear Sujalji,
>
> Any word, taken in isolation , has only vachyartha which could be any
> number of different meanings. Lakshyartha is applicable only when the word
> is used in a particular context. without context lakshyartha has no
> meaning.
>
> Regards
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Pranams,
> >
> > As other members have given references from shruti-s and Shankara BhASya,
> > we can say
> >
> > 1. vAcyArtha: A process - nidhidhAsana, deep contemplation.
> > 2. laxyArtha: Abide in Self, knowledge of Brahman.
> >
> > Tapas can be RAjasika, tAmasika or SAtvika. Here we have to take only
> > SAttvik tapa, w.r.t BG 9.25
> >
> > यान्ति देवव्रता देवान् पितृ़न्यान्ति पितृव्रताः।
> > भूतानि यान्ति भूतेज्या यान्ति मद्याजिनोऽपि माम्।।9.25।।
> >
> > yānti dēvavratā dēvān pitṛnyānti pitṛvratāḥ.
> > bhūtāni yānti bhūtējyā yānti madyājinō.pi mām..9.25..
> >
> > English translation by Swami Gambhirananda
> >
> > 9.25 Votaries of the gods reach the gods; the votaries of the manes go to
> > the manes; the worshippers of the Beings reach the Beings; and those who
> > worship Me reach Me.
> >
> > OR
> >
> > 9.25 Worshippers of the gods (devata-s (deva-s) ascend and stay in
> > deva-loka; the worshippers of the ancestors (staying on chandra-loka) go
> to
> > the manes (chandra-loka); the worshippers of the Ghosts (bhUta, piSAca)
> >  reach their loka; and those who worship Me (Ishvara) reach Me.
> >
> > *Note: D**eva-loka means heaven. **Chandra means moon. Loka can be taken
> as
> > kingdom. Just like there is earth kingdom, there is sun-kingdom,
> > moon-kingdom, *
> > * etc. Howevder, 'Me' or param pada is not any loka it is Atman / Brahman
> > itself, as Adi Shankara clarifies in last verse of same chapter. *
> >
> > P.S. I am clipping earlier reply except last one so as to keep the size
> of
> > email to a minimum. It will be helpful in saving space, as all replies
> are
> > archived. Last reply is not clipped for continuity purpose (helpful while
> > referring archives)
> >
> > OM
> >
> > Sujal Upadhyay
> >
> > "To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
> > nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi
> >
> > He who has faith has all
> > He who lacks faith, lacks all
> > It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
> > FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 11:58 AM, H S Chandramouli <
> > hschandramouli at gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > undoubtedly tapas has many different meanings ( just as many other
> > sanskrit
> > > words in vedanta ) and has to be understood depending on the context.
> it
> > > has different meanings even as between the various darshanas. broadly
> it
> > > could be classified ubder two categories namely karma marga and jnana
> > > marga. tapas under the first category leads to the attainment of the
> > first
> > > three purusharthas ( dharma/artha/kama ) while tapas under the second
> > > category leads to the attainment of the fourth purushartha ( moksha ).
> > what
> > > the asuras performed come under the karma marga and was characterized
> by
> > > severe austerities etc. the goal was to get some favours/boons etc. in
> > fact
> > > thanks to the pauranikas narrating the various stories from the
> smrities
> > > like puranas this meaning has almost been considered by the general
> > public
> > > as the only meaning of the word tapas.
> > > however in vedanta tapas has a totally different meaning. here again it
> > can
> > > be classified under two headings namely for gaining eligibility for
> > brahma
> > > vidya and secondly as sadhana for brahma vidya. in the first category
> > which
> > > enables the sadhaka to become a sadhana chatushtaya sampannah, tapas
> > > consists of strict discipline pertining to all actions,
> > body/verbal/mental
> > > ( kaya,vacha,manasa ) . sadhana chatushtaya refers to viveka,vichara,
> > > shamadi shatka sampattih
> (shama/dama/uparathi/titiksha/shradha/samadhana
> > )
> > > and mumukshutva. during this phase tapas is basically relating to
> action
> > > including mental actions. in the second category, tapas mainly means
> > >  continuous uninterrupted atma tatva vichara ( references have been
> given
> > > in sri Subramaniam's mail ) leading to moksha/jivanmukti.
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > > chandramouli
> > >
> > >
> > >
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