[Advaita-l] Sankhya and Yoga can give Moksha?

[Venkatesh Murthy]

Namaste Sri Sriram

In Avadhuta Gita Second Chapter it is said the bad qualitiies of a
Guru like Vishayabhogarata have to be neglected.

Balasya Vapi Vishayabhogaratasya Vapi Murkhasya Sevakajanasya
Gruhasthitasya Etad Guroho Kimapi Naiva Chintaniyam | 2-1

Even though the Guru is a boy or attached to materialistic enjoyments
like food, drink, women and others or he is a Fool or he is Servant of
someone or he is a Gruhastha living with wife and kids we should
neglect all these bad things and listen to his teachings.

Sri Subrahmanian has said -
Taittiriya says: yAni asmAkam sucharitAni tAni sevitavyAni, no itarANi.

If every Guru Jnani is behaving very perfectly all the time why is the
Sruti saying this? Because even the Guru will behave in a bad way
sometimes. But we should not follow it. We should follow the good
behaviour only.

It is correct Jnani will not trangress Sastra but sometimes he may do
it. Then we should be careful.

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Venkata sriram P
<venkatasriramp at yahoo.in> wrote:
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>  Venkateshji,
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> Like some Jnani may have habit of drinking very frequent coffee and
> tea and smoking also. He may not stop them after Jnana
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> The prArabdha of the jnAni has been stretched too far here above !
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> The above statement determines the *svEcchAchAra* and shri sureshwarachArya in
> Naishkarmya Siddhi compares as:
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> budhAdvaitasatattvasya yathESTAcharaNaM yadi
> shunAM tattvadriSAM chaiva kO bhEdO(a)shuchibhakSaNE
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> If a jnani (advaita jnAni) behaves as per his own sweet will (svEcchAchAra), then
> what difference is there between him and the stray dog which takes delight in the left over
> food in dustbins and gutters?
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> The brahmajnAna is achieved by a sAdhaka who has vivEka, vairAgya and with the practice of shama, dama, titikSa, tapas, svAdhyAya, Ishwara praNidhAna etc.
> The stage prior to jnAnOtpatti is spent in piousness with respect to AhAra, vihAra etc.
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> This is the sthiti of jIvanmukta prior to jnAnOtpatti.  And after jnAnotpatti, his sattva guNAs become his alaMkArAs.
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> tadAnIm amAnitvAdIni jnAnasAdhanAnyadvESTrtvAdayaH sadguNAscha
> alaMkAravadasnuvartantE
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> A jnAni would never trespass shAstra maryAda and he performs his duties out of
> intuition which is for lOka rakSaNa only.
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> So, we don't know whether our beloved Acharya Sankara performed parakAya pravEsha or not because we are going by the second hand knowledge which is given in sankara vijaya. However, with this incident (if it is true !), we are blessed with a beautiful stOtra of lakSminarasimha called *lakSmI-narasimha karAvalaMba stOtraM* which we chant everyday.
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> My 2 cents...
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> regs,
> sriram

-- 
Regards

-Venkatesh