[Advaita-l] Prapatti

[Sunil Bhattacharjya]

Please don't go by all means. It is your free will.  Hanuman too sought more time before going. Yet he was intelligent enough to seek  more time than to refuge Lord Ram's offer outright.Did not Lord Krishna ask 
Arjuna as to what he 
(Arjuna) decided to do after the Lord gave him the discourse of the Bhagavad Gita. Intelligent Arjuna decided to follow what the 
Lord's teachings implied.


SKB



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 From: "rajaramvenk at gmail.com" <rajaramvenk at gmail.com>
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But Ishwara is our own Inner Self. It is not that we are depending on someone else.  Just that He manifests in front of us in a form that is blissful to us. Even if He appears to be different, it is just like a wife depending on her husband or children on parents. So, what is wrong? We are anyway dependent on His anugraha for moksha (advaita siddhi). 

Why go a state where we will lose the blissful experience with Him? 
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Rajaram Venkataramani wrote:

> The simplest process to achieve krama mukti seems to be that of Sri
> Vaishnavas.

prapatti is not any kind of mukti at all.  Think about it.  Mukti means 
liberation.  If you are dependent on any other person even Ishvara, how 
can you consider yourself liberated?


> You admit that you dont have any qualifications whatsoever and
> perform saranagati. And on acceptance of this by an acharya in the
> line, you are assured of being transported to Vaikuntha at the end of
> life. That simple. Is there an equivalent in advaita tradition to go to
> Vaikuntha, Sivaloka etc.? I was told that upanayanam or nama sankirtanam is
> enough but also here that it is not and one has to perform rigorous
> sadhana. What is the tradition's view on this?

The smarta view is that everyone has "qualifications" (adhikara) of 
somewhat.  That Shruti talks about agnihotra etc. is because these are 
archetypes for karma not literally the only karmas themselves.  Surrender 
to the Lord only means one should leave the consequences of ones karma in 
His hands.  It is not an excuse for laziness.

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Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
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