[Advaita-l] Did Madhusudana Saraswati Reconcile Bhakti and Advaita?
Kalyan K
kalyankc.81 at gmail.com
Fri Feb 3 21:47:14 CST 2012
Dear Sri Rajaram, you could be right on what you say about madhusUdhana
saraswati. I have heard that even though Sri madhusUdhana was an advaitin,
he did not agree with Sankara on some issues. If this is correct (and I do
not know if it is), then we could have the former advocating bhakti as the
highest goal even though Sri Sankara advocated jNAna.
Regards
Kalyan
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 12:58 AM, <rajaramvenk at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Shri LalitAlAlitah, namaskarams. If one can trace the lineage to
> Sankara, great. I have no problem with that. But if there is difference of
> opinion on fundamental issues, each one is going to assert that his guru or
> lineage is right. If one wants to reconcile the difference, then objective
> and unbiased analysis is the only way. This is what academic scholars who
> regard truth high do.
>
> May I ask who are you to limit the validity of Madhusudana's views? Do you
> have any basis at all?
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> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 19:05, Rajaram Venkataramani
> <rajaramvenk at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > As you know, Sringeri etc. are regarded as traditional because the line
> of
> > teachers trace back to Sankara, which is not the case with RK Mutt.
> >
>
> Wrong.
> Anyone who studied with help of a guru can trace his lineage to AchArya. So
> is the case of monks of RK Math. Many of them have studied at kailAsa
> Ashrama, R^iShikesh. Now, if any one say that he doesn't consider
> paramahaMsa-s coming from sha~Nkara, because they don't have daNDa ; then
> the same non-acceptance could be directed towards validity of lineage of
> daNDin-s.
>
> But I
> > dont think a person must belong to a traditional mutt to be respected for
> > his good qualities or work.
> >
>
> Do you think that non-traditional people can think and write correct on
> their own ? Then why was this chaos for want of paramparA ? If they can't ,
> then how is their work (translation, etc.) good ? Make your thinking clear.
> Don't mix social and emotional issues of 'respecting and not-respecting
> someone' in a 'discussion of right or wrong' ?
>
>
> > The risk with non-traditional mutts is that their teaching does not align
> > to the tradition.
> >
>
> Don't talk of their teachings which are not related to advaita. They may
> have taught many things other than advaita. But, this doesn't prove them
> wrong in interpretation of advaita, i.e. upaniShad, etc.
>
> Krishna and His form are different or that
> > Bhakti is not an ultimate goal, without studying Madhusudana, who closely
> > follows Sankara.
> >
>
> Traditional scholars know the limit and scope of each book. They don't
> mingle things to create a new theory which can not stand tests.
>
> Now, they pose a greater risk because the blind followers
> > will tend to believe that their view as authentic.
> >
>
> Actually they don't. Because they have tested each view.
> Those who learned from paramparA (i.e. starting directly from madhusUdana)
> are blind, because they can't deduce wrong conclusions - is a kind of
> blindness which is longed by many.
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