[Advaita-l] Accepting Error

[Swami Sarvabhutananda]

OM
AN INDIVIDUAL IS FREE  TO ACCEPT OR REJECT ANYTHING BECAUSE OF THE CHOICE!!
ONE CANNOT BE CARRIED AWAY BY A UNIVERSAL MISTAKE!! IF UNDERSTOOD AS
MISTAKE!!!!
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SWAMI SARVABHUTANANDA

On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 9:31 PM, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 6:35 AM, ramesam vemuri <ramesamvijaya at yahoo.com
> >wrote:
>
> >
> > Lisa Randall (Author of the Book: Knocking at Heaven's Door):
> > * Science
> > certainly is not the static statement of universal laws we all hear about
> > in
> > elementary school. Nor is it a set of arbitrary rules. Science is an
> > evolving
> > body of knowledge. Many of the ideas we are currently in­vestigating will
> > prove
> > to be wrong or incomplete. Scientific descriptions certainly change as we
> > cross
> > the boundaries that circumscribe what we know and venture into more
> remote
> > territory where we can glimpse hints of the deeper truths beyond. ....
>  The
> > paradox scientists have to contend with is that, while aiming for
> > permanence,
> > we often investigate ideas that experimental data or bet­ter
> understanding
> > will
> > force us to modify or discard. The sound core of knowledge that has been
> > tested
> > and relied on is always surrounded by an amorphous boundary of
> > uncertainties
> > that are the domain of current research. The ideas and suggestions that
> > excite
> > us today will soon be forgotten if they are invalidated by more
> persuasive
> > or
> > comprehensive experimental work tomorrow.     *
> >
>
> A foretaste of this is already available in our ancient books:
>
> In the Brahmasutra bhashya 2.1.3.11 Shankaracharya says:
>
>
> लोके तद्विषयं ज्ञानं सम्यग्ज्ञानमित्युच्यते यथाग्निरुष्णा इति   ।
>
> तत्रैवं सति सम्ग्ज्ञाने पुरुषाणां विप्रतिपत्तिरनुपपन्ना   ।
>
> *तर्कज्ञानानां त्वन्योन्यविरोधात्प्रसिद्धा विप्रतिपत्तिः   ।*
>
> *यद्धि केनचित्तार्किकेणेदमेव सम्यग्ज्ञानमिति प्रतिपादितं तदपरेण
> व्युत्थाप्यते, तेनापि प्रतिष्ठापितं ततोऽपरेण व्युत्थाप्यत इति प्रसिद्धं
> लोके
> ।*
>
> कथमेकरूपानवस्थितविषयं तर्कप्रभवं सम्यग्ज्ञानं भवेत् ।......
>
> नच शक्यन्तेऽतीतानागतवर्तमानास्तार्किका एकस्मिन्देशे काले च समाहर्तुं येन
> तन्मतिरेकरूपैकार्थविषया सम्यङ्मतिरिति स्यात   ।
>
> वेदस्य तु नित्यत्वे विज्ञानोत्पत्तिहेतुत्वे च सति
> व्यवस्थितार्थविषयत्वोपपत्तेस्तज्जनितस्य ज्ञानस्य
> सम्यक्त्वमतीतानागतवर्तमानैः सर्वैरपि तार्किकैरपह्नोतुमशक्यम्  ।
>
> अतः सिद्धमस्यैवौपनिषदस्य ज्ञानस्य सम्यग्ज्ञानत्वम्  ।
>
>
> One may read the English translation of the above by Swami Gambhirananda to
> appreciate the bhashyam.  In  effect what is said there is:  What has been
> established with effort by some men using their intellectual acumen is seen
> to be unseated  by other men with a greater intellectual acumen.  It is
> impossible to bring to one place at one time all the intellectuals of the
> past, present and the future to bring a consensus on the topic we want to
> decide upon.  Hence depending upon the intellect alone on certain matters
> is futile.  Shankara, based on the SutrakAra, is decrying kevala
> yuktikushalatvam to arrive at conclusions on things that are beyond our
> intellect.
>
>
> यत्नेनानुमितोऽप्यर्थः कुशलैरनुमातृभिः ।
> अभियुक्ततरैरन्यैरन्यथैवोपपाद्यते ॥
>
> - वाक्यपदीय
>
> yatena anumitaH api arthaH kushalaiH anumAtRubhiH ।
> abhiyuktataraiH anyaiH anyatha eva upapAdyate ॥
>
> - vAkyapadIya, tarka
>
> Many logicians may have used lots of points and proved a point. But that
> does not stop more intelligent people coming along and using more logic
> points and prove it wrong. The same is true for them also.
>
>
> regards
>
> subrahmanian.v
>
>
>
>
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
> >  Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Accepting Possibility of Error in Sastras
> >
> > I had mentioned recently that the details about creation, the world,
> > loka-s, etc. have no more value than chitta shuddhi and are primarily
> aimed
> > at showing a certain entity, Brahman, as the jagat-kAraNam.
> >
> > **********
> >
> > This can be even more appreciated in the case of a
> > scientist by profession believing or accepting or appreciating the
> > discoveries of science who can also be an Advaitin.  His appreciating
> > science will never come in the way of his Advaitic
> > understanding/realization.
> >
> > ******************** (snip)
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