[Advaita-l] tat gotra

[Ramamurthy Venkateswaran]

Pranams
 
Perhaps my poser is not clear to learned members and I thought it appropriate to elaborate it further.  
 
In most of the marriages of Brahmins in Tamil Nadu, including my family, when we take a girl on kanya dhan/marriage, the gotra was different.  But prior to muhartham, the bride as she completes the Gouri Pooja, priests/ prohits from both the bride's side as well from the groom's side, I believe initiate relevant verses, change of gotra into the groom's.  My request to learned members is that how could gotra be changed prior to kanya dhan or the seven steps.  It could be that the priests say that the bride belonging to a particular gotra is being changed (I underline the words, is being changed) to another gotra (i.e. that of the groom's)  after the kanya dhan.
 
Of course, I do agree that there are exceptions as some advaitins have pointed out that such things do take place in marriages other than arranged ones, or consciously avoiding the dharmic principles.  
 
With profound regards,
 
Sincerely,




R. VENKATESWARAN
 
email: r_venkateswaran at hotmail.com
 



 

> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 07:36:28 -0700
> From: rganti9 at yahoo.com
> To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] tat gotra
> 
> Sri Gurubhyon Namaha
>                                 When both bride and bride groom are of the same 
> gothra, the injunction that either of them are not to be related closely atleast 
> a few generations away and also before the marriage one of them is taken dattat 
> by people belonging to another gothra and then they do the kanyadanm. I dont 
> recollect the exact details, but the adoption part of it is correct and there 
> are som pre requisites of how far the relationship of the same gothra goes. This 
> is to be done only when it is unavoidable. But not a bypass.
> 
> Sri Gurubhyon namaha
> Raghav
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Rajaram Venkataramani <rajaramvenk at gmail.com>
> To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 9:37:09 PM
> Subject: [Advaita-l] tat gotra
> 
> Hare Krishna. It is not possible to change the gotra of girl except through
> kanya dhanam and if a person, due to force of circumstances and unknowingly,
> marries a person of the same gotra - the couple should not engage in
> conjugal relationship. I have not checked the references but this is
> according to ganapadigals. This question came up in my relative circles on
> two occasions due to love marriage. In one case, they proceeded by telling
> the mother's gotra of the girl! In the other case, they proceeded by saying
> that we all belong to acyuta gotra!!  Both are conscious violations of
> vaidhika dharma and cause of sin.
> 
> IMO, even after a good birth we commit sinful activities which leads to
> citta asuddhi. It is better to endeavour to attain citta suddhi by trying
> to follow vaidhika dharma and definitely not consciously reject it.
> 
> What do if there is so much attraction that there is no fear of sin or
> conviction to only do enjoined action? All rules apply only for vaidhika
> vivaha where the objective is to secure right to perform veda karma and act
> on the path of dharma to attain citta suddhi. It seems that rules do not
> apply to other types of vivahas, where union takes place due to mutual
> attraction and divorce due to repulsion (apparently there is reference to
> divorce in canakya niti). In jyotisha sastra, it is said that no rule
> applies if there is uncontrollable mutual attraction. One should at least
> look for other types of marriage. At least, it is a sign of respect for our
> sastras.
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ramamurthy Venkateswaran <r_venkateswaran at hotmail.com>
> To: <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 15:18:44 +0000
> Subject: [Advaita-l] (no subject)
> 
> Pranams
> 
> Some elderly person asked me to clarify a point and I found it difficult to
> answer.  I thought that learned advaitins will be able to clarify with
> reference to conventions or written rules.  This is about change of Gotra of
> a girl.  Normally marriage does not take place among the persons of the same
> gotra, i.e. among other things, the gotra of the bride and the groom ought
> to be different and the girl gets into the groom's gotra.
> 
> I have noticed and so also many of us that prior to kanya dhan, the gotra of
> the girl is changed while she is performing the Gowri Pooja; thus the change
> of gotra takes place prior to kanya dhan.
> 
> I will be grateful if this forum is the appropriate one to clarify this
> issue.
> 
> With profound regards,
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> R. VENKATESWARAN
> 
> email: r_venkateswaran at hotmail.com
> 
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