[Advaita-l] Advaitic Foods - Vedic ritual involving animal-killing

[Sunil Bhattacharjya]

One can never say which brahin practising Vamachara and where. The Tantra practice is suuposed to be done in private.

Regards,

skb

--- On Thu, 1/6/11, Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Advaitic Foods - Vedic ritual involving animal-killing
To: "Satish Arigela" <satisharigela at yahoo.com>, "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 2:31 AM

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Satish Arigela <satisharigela at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>From: Jaldhar H. Vyas jaldhar at braincells.com
>
>>The Vamacharis in fact say it should be another woman involved.  The whole point
>>of their philosophy is >to be as transgressive of the norms as possible.
>
> This is only half true: Especially the later part applies only to some sects
>
> It is good if another woman is involved. Here is the reason: The tAntrIka who is
> performing this ritual involving maithuna needs to have one very important
> quality: He should look upon all parastrI-s as his mother.
>
> Since if wife is involved there is this extreme danger of momentarily the manas
> being occupied by lustful thoughts, they use a different strI. Since the
> qualification for this ritual is to look upon other woman without lustful
> thoughts, it is guaranteed now that the ritualist is safe-guarded from lustful
> thoughts entering the mind during the performance. As one can see it is not an
> easy thing to perform..which is the reason they say these rituals are like
> walking on the edge of a sword. A momentary loss of grip over the manas in such
> rituals is said to bring great disaster to the performer
>

How it is possible to do Maithuna without Kama ? This is meaningless.
It is like eating food without hunger drinking without thirst. It
cannot be done.


>>Less extreme tantriks say it should be with ones own wife and the dakshinacharis
>>who are more in tune >with the Vedic path say it is a symbolic concept only.
>
> a dakShiNAchAri can perform it with his wife. Likewise a brAhmaNa when
> performing these vAmAchAra rites uses appropriate substitutes and the strI would
> be his own wife... but he should gave very good control over the manas.
>

Which Brahmins are performing Vamachara? Where?

Regards

-Venkatesh

>
> But one may ask why adopt some ritual containing elements outside the AchAra and
> then use substitutes?
> They are multiple answers to this and none of them are simple to explain, I feel
> at the moment.
>
>
>
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