[Advaita-l] Brihad Up and Putrakameshti

[Venkatesh Murthy]

Namaste Sri Bhattacharya

Kindly look into the archives of messages. You will see how people
were giving references from Mahabharata and other books about cow
sacrifices. You will see how people were saying Yajnavalkya finds
eating tender beef is fine. You will see how people are saying Adi
Sankara is saying Bull meat is required for ritual in 6-4-18 and Bull
meat cannot be substituted by other things. You will see how people
are saying eating veal by pregnant woman is fine. All these statements
are cancelled by Sureshwara's Vartika and our Dharma Sastra texts like
Parashara Smruti.

But you are wrong about Chaga Mamsa. Non Brahmins are allowed to eat
it today. In Yajnas  Brahmins also can sacrifice the Goat and eat it.
But even in Yajnas some Brahmins will not use Goat meat but use Goat
made of flour.


On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Sunil Bhattacharjya
<sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Namaste Venkateshji,
>
>
> You said
>
> Quote
> Many times I tried to convince the people here we have to substitute
> Bull meat by Goat meat today because  Beef is prohibited  but they
> were adamantly refusing to listen.
>
> Unquote
>
> That is wrong. No meat is to be sacrificed at all, not even the Chagamamsa in the Kali yuga, as nobody should entertain the hope of making a child master all the Vedas in this age after Vedavyasa separated the four Vedas, considering the fact it would not be possible for one to master all the Vedas. May be Adi Sankaracharya, the incarnation of Lord Shiva, was the only person to do that in the Kali yuga.  Moreover you have to consider a sizable portion of the veda has been lost due to the vagaries of time in the Kali yuga. So the question cannot arise about teaching all the Vedas.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sunil KB
>
>
>
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>  From: Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
> To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 6:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Brihad Up and Putrakameshti
>
> Namaste
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:20 AM, subhanu saxena <subhanu at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> taṇḍulān māmsa-sam-mishrān paktvā māmsaudanam viduḥ।
>>
>> ukṣā sechana-shakto gauḥ sa eva riṣabho
>> mahān ॥ [BUBV 6.4.77]
>
>>
>> They have ascertained by meat-rice
>> that which one has cooked with rice grains and meat
>>
>> Ukṣan is a bull which is capable of
>> sprinkling (its seed), and when the same is fully grown is a riṣabha
>
>>
>> He then goes on to clarify:
>
>> Prasiddhy-asambhavāt tvadya hyuktam māmsaudanam prati ।
>>
>> Māmsam kriṣṇa-mrigacchāgaviṣayam
>> tvadya kurvate ॥ [BUBV 6.4.78]
>>
>> This is mentioned here with
>> reference to meat-rice, since it is not accepted today
>>
>> They now take meat to refer to that
>> of a black deer or goat
>>
> About 6-4-18 I said on Nov 21 - एवं पूर्वं आचार आसीत् । किंतु कलियुगे
> वृषभमांसस्थाने छागमांसं
> प्रयुज्यते । गोमांसस्य सर्वत्र निषिद्धत्वात् ।
>
> Many times I tried to convince the people here we have to substitute
> Bull meat by Goat meat today because  Beef is prohibited  but they
> were adamantly refusing to listen. Now you have posted from
> Sureshwara's Vartika it will be easy for them to accept the same
> coming from him. Thank you. But for Brahmins in South India even Goat
> meat outside Yajnas is prohibited. They will do substitution of Goat
> meat also and take vegetarian meal only. North Indians may still eat
> meat.
>
>>
>>
>> In BUBV 6.4.79-80  he then clarifies that the meat should be
>> bought, as killing is prohibited for the yajamana, and he should not kill the
>> animal himself. He clarifies the use of atha in 6.4.19 has the sense of an
>> option amongst meats, according to one’s choice. He then explains the sthālīpāka
>> etc as well as a detailed description of lovemaking (not bad for a sannyasi).
>> If you have access, I would suggest you read all of BUBV 6.4 to give the full
>> context
>>
>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Subhanu
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> -Venkatesh
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-Venkatesh