[Advaita-l] vedic yajna

[Sunil Bhattacharjya]

Dear Venkatesh Murthyji,

You said
Quote 
Parashara Smruti has prohibited cow killing in any and all forms in
Kali Yuga. We have to obey it. Simple. It does not matter if 100
Srutis and Smrutis are inviting you to taste beef. They are all wrong
in Kali Yuga.
You have given Mahabharata references. How many things in Mahabharata
we are following? Draupadi had five husbands and Arjuna had multiple
wives. Are we following this system? Why do we want to follow only
beef eating system?
Unquote

You got emotional and got it all wrong. Nobody here  is advocating cow-killing nor is advising anybody to eat beef . I do not eat beef myself but I do not condemn what was written in the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad, as that had an exceptionally  special purpose, valid only for those times.

Regards,

Sunil KB



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 From: Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] vedic yajna
 
Namaste

Anybody can give references from Vedas, Manu Smruti and other places
but the opposing camp can also give a lot of references contradicting
that. If some people give references to prove meat eating and another
group gives references to avoid meat eating, especially beef what can
we do? The wise man must know how to solve the contradictions but the
fool gets confused with all the references. The big challenge is How
do you do Samanvaya of all the statements from Sruti and other
Sastras. As a matter of fact this Samanvaya is the heart of the
solution. This is why the first Adhyaya in Brahma Sutras is named
Samanvaya Adhyaya. There is one whole chapter to do only Samanvaya.

When two or more Sruti Vakyas are clashing against each other we have
to consult Smruti to see how it has solved it. But if two or more
Smrutis are also clashing what can we do? The wise man will look at
the Smruti that is most powerful in that Yuga when he is living. In
Vaidyanatha Dikshitiya it is said the most powerful Dharma Sastra book
in Kruta Yuga is Manu Smruti. In Treta Yuga it is Gautama Smruti. In
Dwapara Yuga it is Shankha Likhita Smruti but in Kali Yuga it is
Parashara Smruti.

Parashara Smruti has prohibited cow killing in any and all forms in
Kali Yuga. We have to obey it. Simple. It does not matter if 100
Srutis and Smrutis are inviting you to taste beef. They are all wrong
in Kali Yuga.

You have given Mahabharata references. How many things in Mahabharata
we are following? Draupadi had five husbands and Arjuna had multiple
wives. Are we following this system? Why do we want to follow only
beef eating system?

Another problem with strict vegetarian but accepting meat eating is
big one. If you are not convinced meat eating is prohibited but think
it is allowed what will you tell your children? They may come and say
'I want to eat meat'. You will tell them 'Meat eating is not bad. It
is allowed in our books. But you should be vegetarian like me. Don't
eat'. Will they get convinced?

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:
> praNAms
> Hare Krishna
>
> One of my cybernet friends (ofcourse a strict shAkhAhAri like me :-))
> yesterday sent me the following piece of information from various sources
> picking from some website.  I have neither patience nor interest to know
> the credentials of this quote (except shankara's quote in bruhadAraNyaka
> and yAjnAvalkya's food preference which I heard earlier also:-))...But
> anyone interested please check the quotes.
>
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar
>
> //quote//
>
>
>
> Manusmriti (Chapter 5 / Verse 30) says, “It is not sinful to eat meat of
> eatable animals, for Brahma has created both the eaters and the
> eatables.”
>
> Manusmriti (5 / 35) states: When a man who is properly engaged in a ritual
> does not eat meat, after his death he will become a sacrificial animal
> during twenty-one rebirths.
>
> Maharishi Yagyavalkya says in Shatpath Brahmin (3/1/2/21) that, “I eat
> beef because it is very soft and delicious.”
>
> Apastamb Grihsutram (1/3/10) says, “The cow should be slaughtered on the
> arrival of a guest, on the occasion of ‘Shraddha’ of ancestors and on the
> occasion of a marriage.”
>
> Rigveda (10/85/13) declares, “On the occasion of a girl’s marriage oxen
> and cows are slaughtered.”
>
> Rigveda (6/17/1) states that “Indra used to eat the meat of cow, calf,
> horse and buffalo.”
>
> Vashistha Dharmasutra (11/34) writes, “If a Brahmin refuses to eat the
> meat offered to him on the occasion of ‘Shraddha’ or worship, he goes to
> hell.”
>
> Also, comments of some great scholars of Hinduism are also worth noting:
> · Hinduism’s greatest propagator Swami Vivekanand said thus: “You will be
> surprised to know that according to ancient Hindu rites and rituals, a man
> cannot be a good Hindu who does not eat beef”. (The Complete Works of
> Swami Vivekanand, vol.3, p. 536).
>
>
> · Mukandilal writes in his book ‘Cow Slaughter – Horns of a Dilemma’, page
> 18: “In ancient India, cow-slaughter was considered auspicious on the
> occasions of some ceremonies. Bride and groom used to sit on the hide of a
> red ox in front of the ‘Vedi’ (alter).”
>
>
> · A renowned scholar of scriptures Dr. Pandurang Vaman Kane says,
> “Bajsancyi Samhita sanctifies beef-eating because of its purity”.
> (Dharmashastra Vichar Marathi, page 180)
>
>
> · Adi Shankaracharya’ commentary on Brihdaranyakopanishad 6/4/18 says :
> ‘Odan’ (rice) mixed with meat is called ‘Mansodan’. On being asked whose
> meat it should be, he answers ‘Uksha’. ‘Uksha’ is used for an ox, which is
> capable to produce semen.
>
>
> · The book ‘The History and Culture of the Indian People’, published by
> Bhartiya Vidya Bhawan, Bombay and edited by renowned historian
> R.C.Majumdar (Vol.2, page 578) says: “this is said in the Mahabharat that
> King Rantidev used to kill two thousand other animals in addition to two
> thousand cows daily in order to give their meat in charity”.
>
>
> // unquote //
>
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