[Advaita-l] vedic yajna

[Sivakumar Ramakrishnan]

Sadara praNAmam,
Would you please let me know about the
availability of Vaidyanatha Dikshiter's
work on Dharmasastra?
*sivakumarr.*

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Namaste
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Sunil Bhattacharjya
> <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Then why not see the Dharmasundhu, which was written two centuries later
> than the Nirnayasindhu and specially because it  is even nearer to our time
> and if you think that nearness to our time is the most important thing tyo
> be onsidered ? Following your logic probably Kane's work also can claim to
> have a higher status than both the Niraayasindhu and the Dharmasindhu. This
> will show the fallacy in your argument. I find your equating the
> Nirnayasindhu with the original Darmashastra texts somewhat strange.
> >
> Dharmasindhu is  a Dharmasastra textbook but someone has to show it
> contradicts Nirnaya Sindhu in beef eating. Where is the evidence? Your
> argument has a fallacy if you are saying we have to see Kane's work.
> Sistachara. What are the Sistas doing? We have to follow them. The
> followers of Hindu Dharma are looking at Nirnaya Sindhu and other
> Dharma Sastra books like Vaidyanatha Dikshitiya but they are not
> looking at Kane for practical use. Whenever they have doubts in Dharma
> Sistas are giving high respect to Vaidyanatha Dikshitiya and other
> books. They are keeping them in Puja room. Kane's book is for western
> people and educated people to read in English. His opinion may or may
> not be right.
>
> If you show Dharmasindhu and Vaidyanatha Dikshitiya allows Beef eating
> in Kali Yuga I will congratulate you and accept it.
>
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Sunil KB
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
> > To: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 2:07 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] vedic yajna
> >
> > Namaste
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Sunil Bhattacharjya
> > <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Namaste,
> >>
> >> I am surprised that you have not got what I wrote in very simple
> English. I
> >> said that whatever Kamalakara Bhatta wrote on beef-eating some 400
> years ago
> >> in his compendium, has to be substantiated by you if you are banking on
> the
> >> statement of Kamalakara Bhatta. This is in  no way any derogation or
> >> aspersion on Nirnayasindhu, in its position as a secondary authority.
> >>
> > Nirnaya Sindhu prohibition of Beef need not have to be substantiated
> > at all because a Dharma Sastra book is based on Sruti, Smruti, Purana,
> > Itihasa and Sistachara only. Otherwise no one will call it as a Dharma
> > Sastra book. Any person challenging it will have to produce evidence
> > to show it is wrongly prohibiting Beef. No body in this list has done
> > it so far.
> >
> >> Did you by any chance think that Brihadaranyaka gave a general sanction
> for
> >> beef-eating? I personally think that Bhishma was right when he said that
> >> meat was offered in yajna by dhoortas.
> >>
> > I am repeating earlier statements. We have to follow Sruti keeping
> > respect for Desha and Kala Dharma also. If Brihadaranyaka has beef
> > eating rituals we have to respect Desha and Kala Dharma from books
> > like Nirnaya Sindhu and avoid beef in that ritual. It does not mean we
> > have to not perform the ritual but it must be changed to suit our
> > times.
> >
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Sunil KB
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
> >> To: Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>; A discussion
> group
> >> for Advaita Vedanta <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 8:38 PM
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] vedic yajna
> >>
> >> Namaste
> >>
> >> It is not impossible for people more knowledgeable than Nirnaya Sindhu
> >> author to be available. But we have to see some evidence. Some person
> >> X cannot come and say Nirnaya Sindhu prohibition of Beef in Kali Yuga
> >> is not correct without giving evidence he is more qualified. I am
> >> asking where is the evidence? He can also give a counter saying from
> >> another scholar  more qualified. AFAIK no scholar has given evidence
> >> why Nirnaya Sindhu must not be followed.
> >>
> >> I already gave Vedic reference from Yajur Veda 'cows are not to be
> >> killed' but people are ignoring it. The Vedas will not say do this in
> >> Kali Yuga and do this in other Yugas. It is the duty of the Smrutis to
> >> say that.
> >>
> >> It is dumb to say our ancestors Rishis were eating meat so we can eat
> >> it. The conditions and environment in those days were different. Now
> >> it is different. If we say Rishis were eating meat so we can eat we
> >> must be prepared to do other things they were doing also. They were
> >> doing Tapas without food and water for many years. Are you prepared to
> >> that? No. Then why say we can eat meat because Rishis were eating. If
> >> you say our ancestors were eating meat in Yajnas. Are you prepared to
> >> do Yajnas continuously for many days? Do you have stamina and patience
> >> to do that? No. Then why say we can eat meat like our ancestors. It is
> >> hypocrisy.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Sunil Bhattacharjya
> >> <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> Dear Venkateshji,
> >>>
> >>> You said
> >>> Quote
> >>>> these things in a clear way without room for any ambiguity.  But I do
> The
> >>>> Nirnaya Sindhu author
> >>>
> >>> Kamalakara Bhatta read all the Vedas the Smrutis, the Puranas and more
> >>> before writing in Kali Yuga
> >>>
> >>> Beef is Banned. He knew what you have written and more.  Do you think
> you
> >>> are more knowledgeable
> >>>
> >>> than him? If yes how?
> >>>
> >>> Unquote
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It is not impossible that people more knowledgeable than Kamalakara
> Bhatta
> >>> may be available today.
> >>>
> >>> Secondly, One must give the original reference in a debate. After all
> the
> >>> Nirnayasindhu is a sort of
> >>>
> >>> compendium and it has only secondary authority. So one must cite the
> >>> original reference to the vedic exts
> >>>
> >>> including the Smritis.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Sunil KB
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > -Venkatesh
> > _______________________________________________
> > Archives: http://lists.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/advaita-l/
> > http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.advaita
> >
> > To unsubscribe or change your options:
> > http://lists.advaita-vedanta.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/advaita-l
> >
> > For assistance, contact:
> > listmaster at advaita-vedanta.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > Archives: http://lists.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/advaita-l/
> > http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.advaita
> >
> > To unsubscribe or change your options:
> > http://lists.advaita-vedanta.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/advaita-l
> >
> > For assistance, contact:
> > listmaster at advaita-vedanta.org
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> -Venkatesh
> _______________________________________________
> Archives: http://lists.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/advaita-l/
> http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.advaita
>
> To unsubscribe or change your options:
> http://lists.advaita-vedanta.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/advaita-l
>
> For assistance, contact:
> listmaster at advaita-vedanta.org
>



-- 
*sivakumarr*