[Advaita-l] Antaryami Vishnu & anya devatas.

[Venkatesh Murthy]

One more joke I heard talking to a pious Madhva lady. Vadiraja
defeated Appaiah Deekshita in debate. I smiled but not laugh because
she is my mother's friend.

Joke Prediction - In 2110 Madhvas will show evidence Sri Vidyasankara
Sri V Subrahmanian and Sri Jaldhar Vyas were defeated in debate by
Madhva list members N.A.P.S. Rao and Shrisha Rao. The referee was
Sadagopan. He gave verdict to say Madhvas won.

Regards

-Venkatesh

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:53 AM, krishna koundinya
<cosmonautkk at gmail.com> wrote:
> Pranam to everyone.
>                              Thank you for all your beautiful answers
> on the topic.
>
> Sri Subrahmanian ji,
>  thank you for the information about the book.
> 1) But as a reply we see that a book written by "Sri Raghuvijaya
> Tirtharu" named  "Sri Akshobhya Vijaya Vaibhava", wherein he has
> answered the critics of Sri Akshobhya Tirtharu. This is the Khandana
> grantha for the advaitha grantha which had tried to condemn Akshobhya
> Tirtharu. The book contains 175 pages, with detailed analysis as to
> how the vagvaada took place, and who were all the witness for the
> vagvaada, with facts and figures. Atleast they claim so.
> I did not read either of the books so I am ignorant of the topic..
>
> 2)  This episode is said to be seen in the book named “Vedantadeshika
> Vaibhava prakashika” written by Doddayyacharya wherein it is claimed
> that this actually took place.
>
> 3) Also there is an article in Mysore Archeological Survey Department
> published in 1886 which claims that At Mulbagil in inscription in
> Grantha characters on a boulder was brought to notice which appears to
> record the fact of a refutation of Vidyaranya by Akshobhya Tirtha, in
> some public dsputation. But the inscription has been lately purposely
> destroyed, so that a few letters remain visible. The above account of
> its contents is given by pesons who saw it before it was damaged and
> who had made a copy of it.
> Please enlighten me on these topics.
>
> 4) quoting from your words
>
> "Atman has no form.  It is nitya, nirvikAri, sarvagataH.  That which is
> infinite, all-pervading cannot have any form.  Any form will limit the
> Atman".
>
> I am a smartha brahmin & I think I understand some of the basic tenets
> of advaita tradition. I am looking for strong vedic pramanas that
> explicitly state these that " Atman has no form or gunas". Are there
> any verses in the Vedas that state this directly ( without depending
> on inferences).??
>
> 5) With my very limited knowledge  I was talking to some Madhva
> followers, they told me that " NIrguna"="Nir" + Guna", which does not
> mean that without attributes or gunas,  but it is something beyond
> comprehension but attributes do stay. It could have been stated as
> "Aguna" instead of nirguna.Now I am not good in sanskrit so I am at a
> loss.
>
> Now  I want to know is there a difference between "nirguna" & "aguna".
> If so what is it?? and does nirguna actually means without attributes.
> or is there anything else? like for eg" Nirvikara or Nirvikalpa etc.
>
> 6) I was also told that as an answer to Sri Madhusudana Saraswati
> swamy's "Advaita Siddhi" , Sripad Ramachandra Tirtha wrote "Tarangini"
> which refuted all the arguments in "Advaita Siddhi". I also heard of
> "advaita tatva sudha" but they maintain that it is not up to the
> standards or it is not a good refutation with some loop holes etc. How
> should we understand this?
>
> 7) I found that Yoga Vashistha is being refuted while it is full of
> advaitic content.
> http://chiraan.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/refutation-of-yoga-vashishtha-sara/
> How should we take this ??
>
> Thank you
> krishna
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