[Advaita-l] A perspective -20

[Sunil Bhattacharjya]

Anbuji,
I have not raise any  doubt. I was just referring to the relevant portion from the Bhagavad Gita.

--- On Mon, 2/22/10, Anbu sivam2 <anbesivam2 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Anbu sivam2 <anbesivam2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] A perspective -20
To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 11:22 AM

Sunilji,

Trikaala is the swaroopalakshaNam of time.  It arises from a standpoint.
(Remember the theory of relativity where the westerner discusses it from the
standpoint of a human being who can see only one thing at one moment?  He
never discussed what would he see if everything of the past present and
future could be  simultaneously seen!  Such concept was unknown to him!)
There is no standpoint for Parabrahmam (Krishna) which is why He is bootha,
bhavya bhavath Prabhu:.  Therefore He is beyond the kaala.

Start thinking that *Krishna is Parabrahmam and the only Reality* then you
will have no doubts such as the one you have raised.

Regards,
Anbu
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Sunil Bhattacharjya <
sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dear Anbuji,
>
> When Lord Krishna tells Arjuna that He can see his past births and Arjuna
> can't do that, it means that one who can see the Paramarthika satya can see
> the Vyavaharika satya as the impermanent reality of the past.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya
>
> --- On Mon, 2/22/10, Anbu sivam2 <anbesivam2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Anbu sivam2 <anbesivam2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] A perspective -20
> To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 5:46 AM
>
>
> Dear Sadhanandaji,
>
> Pranams.
>
> I did say the following:
>
> "Paramaarthika sattha is beyond the reach of the human mind and it is
> unnegateable.  Yet the intellect can infer that this is the only Reality
> that is FULL."  There are a lot of Vedic pramanas to support this view and
> I
> am sure you will agree.
>
> The aim is to lose the ignorance of you being the tenth man.  As the story
> points out the intellect is not the only way to lose that ignorance. In all
> our scriptures they proclaim loudly the importance of the role of this
> Chaithanyam viz. the Guru that removes the ignorance.  Simply,
> "Aachaaryavaan PurushO Vedha:"
>
> In respect of the intellect please do not forget that it belongs to the
> prakrthi.  The dormant intellect is of thaamasic nature getting swept away
> by the forces of nature.  As Bhagavan Ramana says:  'Dehaathma
> buddhEgnyajadau samaanau'.
>
> So this intellect is sought to be awakened by means of prayer to Savithri
> by
> the Gayathri manthra.  The swabhaavam of the active intellect is to
> discriminate.  The final discrimination would be for it to discriminate
> between the Real and the unreal like the kindling wood that releases the
> fire but as you would know that this kidling wood has also to be consigned
> into that fire!
>
> Yet in all these processes you would notice that the intellect as the inert
> entity has no way of doing anything on its own!!
>
> Actually the entire mithya of jagath has been perfected and upheld by this
> intellect.  Can you deny it?  The intellect is much rather a generator of
> falsehood and that is its swaroopa lakshanam.  One should stop fooling
> around with that.
>
> Regards,
> Anbu
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Kuntimaddi Sadananda <
> ksadananda108 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Shree Ambuji - PraNams
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Anbu sivam2 <anbesivam2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Perhaps my earlier posting on Sivaanandhalahari dealing with this
> subject
> > > in
> > > three parts may be of help.
> >
> >
> > Perhaps.
> >
> >
> > > .  Advaitha teaches us that giving up the intellect enables one
> > > to become one with this Reality.
> > >
> > I think it has already been pointed that what is to be given up is not
> > intellect but misconceptions of the intellect. With intellect only one
> has
> > to realize. Without the intellect - one is as good as animal - budhyaa
> > vihiinaaH pashubhi samaanaaH - says niiti vaakyam.
> > With mind alone one need to realize. without the mind reflecting the
> > illuminating consciousness, one cannot recognize the all pervading light
> of
> > consciousness. With mirro alone one can see the face - one should not
> > misunderstand that image is the real. Similalry with the reflecting
> > consciousness in the intellect, one has to use viveka to shift attention
> to
> > the original using that very reflection. That is what nitya anitya vastu
> > viveka involves. Giving up the image as not the original is sanyaasa.
> > Shifting attention to the orginal using the image reflection is yoga.
> >
> > The mithyaa aspect discussed was from adviata siddhi - definitions of
> > falsity.
> >
> > Hope this helps
> >
> > Hari Om!
> > Sadananda
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