[Advaita-l] Musings on the Fundamentals of Hinduism - 8

[Anbu sivam2]

Kman,

After reading your observations I have come to the conclusion that you are
no Hindu as you have your own misinterpretation of Dharma and you have
portrayed Ramayana in abysmally anti-Hindu light.  The concluding
observation of you "Again it shows the relative nature of dhrma. If Ravana
had won you all would play the tune differently:-)" confirms my view of you.

And besides Gazni Mohammed who ransacked Hindu temples and plundered the
country is a good guy for you!

This group is for those who have fundamental agreement on the dhaarmic
messages of Veda, Purana and Ithihasa and I am sure it is not intended to be
used to repudiate them.

As such I am going to leave it to the moderators to say if your questions
are genuine and worth answering.  If it is their considered opinion that it
should be answered then I and many others including the moderators in this
group would get into argument with you.




On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:33 AM, kman <krismanian at gmail.com> wrote:

> >-- By *Dharma* we mean orderliness as opposed to chaos.
> This definition is wrong. Only if there is predictability in every action
> there is no chaos.
> We know that nothing is predictable 100%.the uncertainity principle.
> Krishna
> says do your actions with out any expectation,take the results as prasad
> from Him as there is no predictability and he understood the law of chaos!
>
> > It is the rule of
> >humane law. A society with a rule of law where everyone understands his
> role
> >and plays it fully without let or hindrance is a Dhaarmic society. An
> >individual who understands and plays his role fully and effectively is a
> >Dhaarmic person. A king who rules a Dharmic Society and has Dharmic
> subjects
> >as citizens is a true king. Rama was a true king.
>
> Unfortunately each person has multiple roles. Dharma is tied to one role.
> So
> a person may
> fully follow the dharma of one role at the same time breaking it in another
> role. Per your Rama
> example: As a son to his father he broke his dharma by not taking his
> wishes
> and following Kaikeyi's
> wishes and leaving for the forest. He also broke the dharma in the eyes of
> his people who wanted him to be the king. So he did not rule his dharmic
> society for a good long time. Kaikeyi broke dharma per your
> definition, so the society was not dharmic at all. We have more instances
> like rama asking sita to
> walk into fire to prove her fidelity etc.
>
> >A person who interferes in other?s affairs
> >or forcibly takes over others? work is considered ?paradharmic? and he is
> >asuric in nature.
>
> Rama also did kill Vali and interfered in others affairs.
>
> >Gathering wealth as an object of life is called ?*Artha*?. Such pursuit of
> >wealth must be lawful and dhaarmic. A person dispossessing others is an
> >adharmic person and is considered to have asuric nature. Mohmad Gazni
> >invaded India 17 times and amassed a huge wealth. This asura made a huge
> >mountain of his stolen wealth in Gazni
>
> Again, this Dharma is relative depending on which side you stand for the
> sake of the argument.
> For Hindus it was adharmic, may be for Gazni's citizens it was dharmic as
> their king is bringing wealth
> for their betterment.
>
> >Kama* is the pursuit of pleasure derived from enjoyment all good things in
> >life including sexual pleasures. It can also be said that Kama is seeking
> >the fulfillment of one?s desires. Stealing another man?s wife is an
> adharmic
> >fulfillment of Kama and therefore is an asuric act. Ravana stole Rama?s
> wife
> >and Dharma caught him in the form of Rama and he was killed.
>
> Ofcourse if Rama and Laxmana followed their dharma and not disfigured *
> Soorpanaka*
> they could have avoided the whole dispute.You ignore one adharma and
> accentuate the
> other. Again it shows the relative nature of dhrma. If Ravana had won you
> all would play the tune
> differently:-)
>
> Sri Gurubyo Namaha
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------
> Kman
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