[Advaita-l] Rebirth

[Vishy]

Dear Anbuji
 
 
Can I say all exist as long as you are identifying yourself with manas (mind)  what all you see/ perceive/ do/ happens is Maya . here 'all' includes pleasures / pains birth /death all inclusive
The movement you understand this maya, drop " I" (dropping mind) and start witnessing everything just as witness (saakshi) than everything dissappears
 that witness(Aum) alone is  the truth (Aum tat sath)... and  'you are that '(tat vam asi) Isnt it?
Untill we reach that state what all we  perceive/ what all we do is just not truth, but mind games
Am I right, sir?? So, can I say even the devatas(who rule Indriyas  and eshwar the karmaphala administrator also projection of mind??
 
Pranams
Vishy
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

--- On Sat, 24/10/09, Anbu sivam2 <anbesivam2 at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Anbu sivam2 <anbesivam2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Rebirth
To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
Date: Saturday, 24 October, 2009, 4:46 PM


Dear Vishyji,

Pranas and the Panchendriyas are referred to the devatas who occupy those
positions.

When someone has a dehaathma buddhi he sees the jagat as real and performs
karma in pursuit of happiness and in turn is governed by Easwara who
administers karmaphala.  Yes this is duality which hold that jeeva and
Brahman as different.  Dhukkam exists in dwaitha prapancham.  Dwaitha
vedanta of Ramanuja and Madhwas have their own concepts on the release of
jeeva from samsaara.  Advaita has its own.

Anbu

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Vishy <vishy1962 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Anbuji,
>
> Namskaram
>
> Pl bear with me for the questions that may appear stupid , but nevertheless
> throw some more light on the following aspects, please
>
>
> What is exactly 'Prana' , is it not just the energy  (the prakruthi)??
>
> Are panchayandriyas  not part of physicalbody...just  as organs?
>
> "As directed by Eswara gets into another body according to karmapala" you
> said,
> but treating Eswara as someone sitting away accunting for all karmas
> appears more dwaitic why even abrhamic
>
> Please, please dont ever conclude I am critical or sceptical ..... I am
> trying get how Advaita vedanta sees all these things whose very basic  is "
> aham Brahmasmi' and asserts realizing that is that waht amounts to mukthi
>
> As I said earler , my little knwoledge about the whole vedanta/ scriptures
> is from english translations and books like that of swami Vivekananda, swami
> Ramateertha etc. may be due to this limited knwoledge I am asking these
> questions so that I can get the whole picture
>
> Pranams
> Vishy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 24/10/09, Anbu sivam2 <anbesivam2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Anbu sivam2 <anbesivam2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Rebirth
> To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Date: Saturday, 24 October, 2009, 12:39 PM
>
>
> Vishyji,
>
> When the gross body is dead the praana leaves the body carrying with it the
> mind and the panchendrias and is directed by Easwara into another body
> as the person's karmaphala warrants.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Vishy <vishy1962 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Dear Michealji, Sadananadaji, Sunilji, vyasji, Anbuji and other learned
> > members
> >
> > Pranams to all. As a novice to scriptures, I would like to raise genune
> > doubt so that I can get calrified by the learned
> >
> > Generally we all beleive in the theory of rebirth and that is very basic
> of
> > karma theroy too, but I am not clear as what is that dies at the time of
> > physical death of this body and what is that takes rebirth??
> >
> > All of us are made of the physical body (made of five elements ) , Mind
> > (Manas...made of chitta , buddhi and ahankara) and the Atman( the
> > consciouness, the real life)
> >
> > The physical body which is made of the five elements of nature goes back
> > once burried or cremated
> > The Atman which is teh Bathman itself is common in all living beings that
> > is never born or never dies
> > Than we are left with only the mind....  here chitta is storage of all
> > thoughts and experiences, buddhi is the intelligence and ahankara is an
> > illusion. Out of these which, I am not able to understand,  takes
> rebirth!!!
> > These three can be at the most can be contenets, but what is the
> container
> > that carries?
> >
> >
> > Please dont think I am sceptical, but this is genune doubt for which I
> > couldnt
> > get answer anywhere?
> >
> >
> > Pranams once again
> > Vishy
> >
> >
> >
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