[Advaita-l] RE: Advaita-l Digest, Vol 45, Issue 23

[Krishnamurthy Ramakrishna]

pranAms sri anbu ji,
I am unable to understand where Krishna has told Arjuna that he is 
not entitled to sanyAsa in the second chapter? He only said, your duty is to
fight! The message in gIta is progressive. After doing karma one progresses
to karma yOga (3rd chapter); The fifth chapter is devoted to karma sanyAsa,
when one has graduated from karma yOga (Arjuna was not ready for sanyAsa; 
his vishAda - despondency in first chapter is testimony to this; Recognizing
this, as a well wisher Krishna asked him to fight). sanyAsa is not
necessarily declaring so. sanyAsa is abandoning kartritva - doership.
However, abandoning doership is almost impossible where fruits are expected
via a sankalpa. sanyAsa offers a path where a formal expectation of fruit
via a sankalpa is rejected.
Please quote the source where only brahmins are entitled to sanyAsa is said?
If a sanyAsi is beyond varNa, why the restriction on sanyAsa for brahmins
only?
Hari OM
K. Ramakrishna.

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The answer is a firm NO.  Note that Bhagavan Ramana gave his mother Moksha
and there stands a 'Maathrubutheswara Temple' on her samadhi.

Sanyasa Ashrama is part of Varnasrama Dharma where only the Brahmins are
entitled to Sanyasa.  I want to remind here that Krishna points out to
Arjuna that he is not entitled to Sanyasa in the second chapter of Bhagavat
Geetha.  In fact it is only reasonable to infer that the concept of Dharma
is societal and all varnas have respective role in society without which the
society would collapse.  A brahmin who takes up sanyasa would immediately
lose his varna status. A Sanyasi is considered beyond Varna.

With Narayanasmrithi,
Anbu

On 1/29/07, K.Sankarasubramanian(Finance/TVS-E) <
k.sankarasubramanian at tvs-e.in> wrote:
>
> I have a query to pose to the learned members here.. Is there any
> compulsion in the sastras for everyone to get into Sannyasa Ashrama ?
> Can we not get Moksha without going through the Sannyasa Ashrama ? If
> Sannyasa Ashrama is a compulsion, what about ladies ? Pl let me know if
> there is any such Sannyasa Ashrama for ladies.
>
> KSS/29.01.2007
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