[Advaita-l] BrahmaGYAna and jIvanmukti - 5 (Other References)

[K Kathirasan NCS]

Namaste Jagannathan,

I would totally agree with you.  From the standpoint of mukti, both
unsteady Jnana & ajnana are avidya alone. 

Best Regards,
Kathirasan K
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I agree that perfect sAdhana-chatushhTaya is necessary for
brahmaGYAna. What I do not understand is the term "unsteady GYAna"
which I think can be simply called as "aGYAna."

On 2/8/07, S Jayanarayanan <sjayana at yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- S Jayanarayanan <sjayana at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > --- jagannathan mahadevan <jagannathan.mahadevan at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Kartik,
> > >
> > > This is my understanding of your last (#5) post.
> > >
> > > I think that the point that you are trying to convey is that the
> > > sAdhana-chatushhTaya is a necessary prerequisite for someone to
> > > even
> > > sit and listen to the vEda SAstra and the mahAvAkya.
> > >
> >
> > Actually, no!
> >
> > I think you need to read the very first posting in the series at
> >
>
http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/advaita-l/2006-October/018518.ht
ml
> >
> > ---
> > Thus, JMV's thesis can also be stated as:
> >
> >   Firm sAdhana-chatushhTaya   -->  Firm BrahmaGYAna    =   mukti
> >
> >   Infirm sAdhana-chatushhTaya --> Infirm BrahmaGYAna  =/=  mukti
> > ---
> >
> > Therefore, it is possible for BrahmaGYAna to be samyak (perfect),
> > and
> > aparoksha (direct or immediate), and yet asthitam (unsteady).
> >
> > All of us know Brahman, but only indirectly. Even for one who has
> > direct knowledge of Brahman, mukti is not achieved. One needs both
> > direct as well as knowledge of Brahman for mukti.
> >
>
> The last sentence should read "One needs both direct as well as
> steady knowledge of Brahman for mukti."
>
> > Regards,
> > Kartik
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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