[Advaita-l] Is Knowledge result of Prabdha karma ??

[kuntimaddi sadananda]

The karma kaanda is rejected with the statement of upanishad "na
karmaNaa...".  Shankara emphasizing that kartrutva bhaava on the part of
jiiva is itself a notional due to adhyaasa, upadesha sahasri sloka has
to be interpreted appropriately in tune with the advaitic concepts that
Knowledge itself is eternal and undifferentiated and cannot be the
result of an action which is finite and temporal.

Hari Om!
Sadananda




--- Srikrishna Ghadiyaram <srikrishna_ghadiyaram at yahoo.com> wrote:
> hariH OM !!
> 
> I know that this is a traditional explanation given to
> show that Knowledge alone is the cause/means of
> liberation.
> 
> But, what about this specific sloka quoted from
> upadEsa sAhasrI ? This is also an accepted source of
> Sankara's teaching. What does he mean here ? It looks
> like a contradiction of sorts. I do not see any need
> to search for a hidden meaning in this direct
> reference to prarabdha karma. Let me know how to
> justify this statement.
> 
> Om Namo Narayanaya !!
> 
> Srikrishna
> 
> --- kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Shankara says in Aatma bodha 
> > avirodhitayaa karma avidyaan na vinivartayet|
> > vidyaavidyaam nihantyeva tajas timirisanghavat|
> > 
> > The action is not being opposite to ignorance cannot
> > eliminate it.  Only
> > knowledge is opposite to ignorance like the light is
> > opposite to
> > darkness.  
> > 
> > Implication is knowledge cannot be the result of any
> > action.
> >   
> > But action can help in preparting the mind - such as
> > studying and
> > meditating on the truth etc., so that knowledge can
> > descend to the mind
> > that is receptive for that knowledge.  Preparing the
> > mind is an action. 
> > But knowledge cannot not be willed.  It is called
> > vastu tantram not
> > purusha tantram. 
> > 
> > Hari OM!
> > Sadananda
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Srikrishna Ghadiyaram
> > <srikrishna_ghadiyaram at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > hariH OM !!
> > > 
> > > Refer to upadEsa sAhasrI - Chapter 4 (metrical
> > part) -
> > > sloka 4 :
> > > 
> > > Arabdhasya phalE hyEtE bhOgO j~Anam cha karmaNaH
> > > avirOdhastatOyuktO vaidhrmyam cha itarasya tu
> > > 
> > > Translation as per Mayeda:
> > > 
> > > Page 112
> > > 
> > > 4. As experience [of the result of action] and
> > > knowledge are both resuls of action which has
> > already
> > > begun to produce a result, it is reasonable that
> > they
> > > (= knowledge and action) are not contradictory to
> > each
> > > other. But other [action, namely that which has
> > not
> > > yet begun to produce a result,] is different in
> > > nature.
> > > 
> > > --------
> > > 
> > > Similar is the translation by Swami Jagadananda.
> > > 
> > > Q: How is it said that 'experience and knowledge
> > are
> > > both results of action ..' ?
> > > 
> > > Om Namo Narayanaya !!
> > > 
> > > Srikrishna
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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