Varna and one more
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Thu Oct 18 12:20:45 CDT 2001
Ganesh Ramachandran
The veda is considered by vedanta to be anaadi, the revelations to rishis, containing eternal truths. Shree Aurobindo set out on an immense task to bring out the imperative meaning of the veda. He has striven and translated portions of the Rg veda, trying to bring out implied meanings and hidden significances. He interprets the entire veda as revelations from and about higher planes of consciousness, contradicting Sayana whose Bhashya analyses verses literally. He brings out that the upanishads are just more explicit in this regard, while the rest of the veda consists of the mystical outporings of rishis in bliss.
In comprehending and living with the veda, is the path to the ultimate. Comprehension would include implied utterances too. Something to ponder upon.
||Ekamevaadhyitheeyam||
Ganesh
----- Original Message -----
From: Badri Narayanan Velamur Asokan
To: ADVAITA-L at LISTS.ADVAITA-VEDANTA.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: Varna and one more
V.A.Badri Narayanan
152/1, Summerhill drive
Ithaca, NY 14850
i somewhat disagree on the above argument because, whatever be the case, is the purpose of advaitins to go behind deivsing powerful yagnas , getting better medicine and style of living??
i personally deem that vedas are not to be researched and analysed sine analysis of vedas they themselves being authoritative texts fulfilling the bridge between an individual and guiding him in his quest for the ultimate brahman.
well this requires further discussion,
bye,
badri.
----Original Message Follows----
From: Shrinivas Gadkari
Reply-To: List for advaita vedanta as taught by Shri Shankara
To: ADVAITA-L at LISTS.ADVAITA-VEDANTA.ORG
Subject: Re: Varna and one more
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 04:05:25 -0400
Namsate,
Let us analyze this issue pragmatically:
Imagine a Vedic era, possibly of future.
Why would the society need a Brahmana class ?
So that this class of people may devote themselves to
full-time research in Vedic sciences and arts. Society
will support this class, and in turn Brahmans will help
society prosper by :
1. Training the students in different skills that sustain
the society.
2. Continually evolve and refine Vedic tecniques to tackle
various issues pertaining to life. For example: devise
powerful and effective yagnas, develop and refine Vedic
medicine, develop and refine the science of defence and
martial arts, develop and refine the art of music .....
This R&D effort of the Brahmana Class will be the most
valuable assest of the society.
Suppose, a person of lower brith, knows and understands the
Veda. And can contribute to the soceity by applying his/her
understanding of the Vedas to develop and refine applications.
Will society sponser this person for a full time R&D effort.
Ofcourse it will, society is after all results driven.
So, birth issue becomes irrelevant AFTER a person has
acquired the knowledge of Vedas.
So the only place where birth issue may be of concern is
in FINDING a teacher who is willing to impart the secrets
of the Vedas to a seeker of lower birth.
I would say, each teacher will be different in this matter.
One who possesses Knowledge also has the reponsibilty to choose
students wisely. If a student irrespective of birth convinces
a teacher of his/her capabilty, after that birth cannot
remain an issue.
Best regards
Shrinivas
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