[Advaita-l] Definition of Ashrayatva and Vishayatva

[V Subrahmanian]

In the Panchadashi, 6th chapter too the concept is mentioned:

जलव्योम्ना घटाकाशोयथा सर्वस्तिरोहितः ।
तथा जीवेन कूटस्थः सोऽन्योऽन्याध्यास उच्यते ॥ २४॥

अयं जीवो न कूटस्थं विविनक्ति कदाचन ।
अनादिरविवेकोऽयं मूलाविद्येति गम्यताम् ॥ २५॥

विक्षेपावृतिरूपाभ्यां द्विधाविद्या प्रकल्पिता ।न भाति नास्ति कूटस्थ
इत्यापादनमावृतिः ॥ २६॥

अज्ञानी विदुषा पृष्टः कूटस्थं न प्रबुध्यते ।न भाति नास्ति कूटस्थ इति
बुद्ध्वा वदत्यपि ॥ २७॥

स्वप्रकाशे कुतोऽविद्या तां विना कथमावृतिः ।
इत्यादितर्कजालानि स्वानुभूतिर्ग्रसत्यसौ ॥ २८॥


From the other Acharyas that have spoken on this, can we conclude that this
concept of ashrayatva-vishayatva is of the Vivarana school?  Does not the
Bhamati bother about this at all?

regards
subbu

On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 5:59 AM Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste Sudhanshu ji,
> Are you interested in Ashrayatva / viShayatva definitions in general or
> definitions of ajnAna's Ashrayatva / viShayatva in particular?
>
> Where something is located is its Ashraya - does there need to be anything
> more to it? That being the case, where ignorance is located is its Ashraya.
> I think we can define the object of ignorance (viShaya) as the locus of
> non-cognisance arising due to ignorance of an otherwise cognisable entity.
>
> Have you looked at the TIkA's to the sankshepa shAriraka in this regard? I
> briefly referred to the tattvabodhini TIkA of nRsimhAshrama (
>
> https://archive.org/details/434_Wthe-samkshepa-shariraka-with-tattva-bodhini-sarasvati-bhavana-granthmala-no.-69-_202012_/page/n9/mode/2up
> ).
>
> The commentary to the sloka 20 on Page 34 defines anavabhAsa as नास्ति न
> प्रकाशते इति स्वरूपविपरीतव्यवहारविषयत्वयोग्यत्वं, and that can be used for
> ajnAnaviShayatva also.
>
> The siddhAnta leSha sangraha also says something similar ‘नास्ति न
> प्रकाशते’ इत्यादिव्यवहारयोग्यत्वमिति परम्परया अज्ञानविषयत्वाभ्युपगमात्.
>
> A similar approach is taken in the advaita siddhi chapter on ajnAna
> viShayopapattih in defining AvaraNakRtyam - नास्ति न प्रकाशत इति व्यवहार
> एवाभिज्ञादिसाधारणः; अस्ति प्रकाशत इत्येतद्व्यवहाराभावो वा आवरणकृत्यम् ।
> आवरणं
> च तद्योग्यता अज्ञानसंबन्धरूपा सुषुप्त्यादिसाधारणी आब्रह्मज्ञानमवतिष्ठते ।
>
> Kind regards,
> Venkatraghavan
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 4:39 PM Sudhanshu Shekhar via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Hari Om,
> >
> > In Samkshepa ShArIraka, it is said that Ashraya and vishaya of ajnAna is
> > shuddha chaitanya.
> >
> > It is to request the learned members that precise definitions of
> Ashrayatva
> > and vishayatva may kindly be shared along with citations, if possible.
> >
> > Regards.
> > Sudhanshu Shekhar.
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