[Advaita-l] Who is Ishwara? He is NARAYANA only. Beautiful and soothing Narayana Bhajan

[Kalyan]

Vidyasankar

I knew you would warn me sooner or later. This list is meant for a coterie of a few. A mutual admiration society, I should say. If somebody does not fall in line, he or she is out.

Now do whatever you want to do as the moderator.

Regards
Kalyan

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On Sun, 5/21/17, Vidyasankar Sundaresan <svidyasankar at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Who is Ishwara? He is NARAYANA only. Beautiful and soothing Narayana Bhajan
 To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>, "Kalyan" <kalyan_kg at yahoo.com>
 Date: Sunday, May 21, 2017, 10:34 AM
 
 Kalyan, I have a two part
 answer for you. The first is as an individual responding to
 you. The second is as a moderator of this list.
 If you know yourself as nirguNa, nirviSesha, then
 you are no longer an ignoramus. If you know yourself as any
 other, then you are the biggest ignoramus. Yet, whatever
 little you know in your ignorance is only through the light
 of your own self. Therefore, this nirguNa nirviSesha self is
 described as the paraMjyoti.
 That said, watch your language and your combative
 attitude. This list does not exist to fatten anybody's
 ego. Over the course of several posts, it appears that your
 motive is to showcase how well you can get under the skins
 of other list members. In that case, take it elsewhere. It
 contradicts your professed claims of wanting to have
 productive discussions. You are trying the patience of
 almost everybody here. The moderators have mostly taken a
 benign attitude towards your posting history, but this is
 something up with which we don't have to put
 forever.
 Vidyasankar
 On May 21, 2017 1:33
 AM, "Kalyan via Advaita-l" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
 wrote:
 Isn't
 the nirguNa nirvishesha Atman itself the biggest and only
 ignoramus in advaita? It beats me how such an Atman,
 wallowing in ignorance, can be described as param jyoti.
 
 
 
 Regards
 
 Kalyan
 
 
 
 
 
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 On Sun, 5/21/17, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 vedanta.org> wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Who is Ishwara? He is NARAYANA
 only. Beautiful and soothing Narayana Bhajan
 
  To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta"
 <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 vedanta.org>
 
  Cc: "V Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
 
  Date: Sunday, May 21, 2017, 2:10 AM
 
 
 
  On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 11:05 PM,
 
  Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l <
 
  advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 vedanta.org>
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
  > Namaste
 
  >
 
  > I listen to this
 
  popular Narayana Bhajan without fail everyday like
 
  > many many people -
 
  >
 
  > https://www.youtube.com/watch?
 v=BnLfUf1Iefc
 
  >
 
  > In the Narayana Sukta
 
  Narayana is the Ultimate Ishwara. Who is He? The
 
  > Upanisad has said -
 
  >
 
  > sa brahma sa śivaḥ
 
  sa hariḥ sendraḥ so'kṣaraḥ paramaḥ
 
  svarāṭ.
 
  >
 
  > He is
 
  Brahma, Siva, Vishnu, Indra and other gods. He is the
 
  > Imperishable, the Absolute, the Autonomous
 
  Being.
 
  >
 
 
 
  Sayana in the bhashya to this sukta says - it
 
  is not any mūrtiviṣeśa, that
 
  is not any
 
  particular form, meaning that it is Nirguna Brahman. He
 
  gives
 
  the shruti 'param
 
  jyotirupasampadya..' which is discussed in the brahma
 
  sutra bhashya as the self that is realized upon
 
  right knowledge. This is
 
  nirguna Brahman in
 
  Advaita.  Sayana also says that this entity is the
 
  adhishthana for the aropita jagat. That is
 
  again nirguna brahman.
 
 
 
  regards
 
  vs
 
 
 
  >
 
  > --
 
  > Regards
 
  >
 
  > -Venkatesh
 
  >
 
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